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Helgoland

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New way to fentanyl
« on: January 05, 2011, 09:40:39 AM »
Aight, I didn't find an appropriate thread for this, so here goes:
Acetone-->1,3-Dichloroacetone (There's a patent on this using iodides)--NaCN-->1,3-Dicyanoacetone-->reductive amination with aniline-->amide by acetic or propionic anhydride-->dialdehyde (by Stephen aldehyde synthesis, my coup de grace) --reductive amination with phenylethylamine-->fentanyl or its derivatives
Any obvious mistakes I didn't get? Any thoughts?

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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 02:19:17 PM »
That is revelent to my interests.
I don't have the qualification to understand the whole thing but thanks dude ;)
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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2011, 05:47:15 PM »

jon

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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2011, 09:13:13 PM »
i think he used a micheal reaction with methylmethacrylate and phenylethylamine and followed it up with methylacrylate as in the beckket and casy paper i have then a dieckmann condensation reaction to the keto ester and saponification in h2so4/h2o
check out the flow sheet.
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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2011, 11:29:34 AM »
 I made a graphic, let's see if more people will post then ;D
Btw, here's the Stephen aldehyde synthesis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_aldehyde_synthesis
I hope this helps.

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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 12:39:49 PM »
Just to clarify, that last graphic is for a-methyl-fentanyl, not vanilla fentanyl.  And won't work so well.

In the third step, you are going to acylate the cyanide groups as well, and in the last step you are going to reductively aminate the acetyl group to some extent as well.  Reactions don't just magically target the particular instances of groups you want them to target.

There is a good older fentanyl thread in the forum with several papers posted including papers examining methods of producing various piperidones (including NPP from phenethylamine.)  That's probably where you're going to want to start.

http://www.lookchem.com/Chempedia/Basic-Chemical/Chemical-Reaction/8417.html
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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 02:27:36 PM »
I know, I made it ;D
The Petrenko-Kritschenko piperidone synthesis won't work for the unsubstituted piperidone; that was discussed at Sciencemadness, I think.
Seriously, an anhydride will attack a nitrile? Didn't know about that.
Reductive amination of amides... About that neither.
Is it fixable/tolerable? If yields were to go down only slightly, side reactions wouldn't be that bad.
Otherwise - a protecting group for the carbonyl might be the thing we're looking for. Would acetals
survive the Stephen?

Helgoland

P.S. I think the old synthesis wasn't that awesome either, but I could be wrong.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2011, 02:31:00 PM by Helgoland »

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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2011, 11:54:59 PM »
I think you're right and I was way off above.  I pretty much completely misremembered about 4-5 separate reactions.

The piperidone synthesis didn't work with unsubstituted ketones but could potentially produce piperidone derivatives that were a decarboxylation away from being useful (assuming it doesn't get completely wrecked in the process.)

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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 01:47:35 AM »
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Reactions don't just magically target the particular instances of groups you want them to target.

timecube, they do go exactly the way you want them to when you discuss them but, when you actually perform them, harsh reality sets in.

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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2011, 08:05:39 PM »
Acylating agents won't target a nitrile, to the best of my knowledge. However, getting 1,3-dichloroacetone instead of 1,1-dichloroacetone or a mixture of disproportionation products is not going to be very easy. Also, an aldehyde won't attack a tertiary amine because formation of the necessary imine is impossible (pentavalent nitrogen does not exist).

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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 08:02:47 PM »
Easier way to 1,3-dichloroacetone: dry distillation of chloroacetates?
Or would some polyester form?
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Also, an aldehyde won't attack a tertiary amine because formation of the necessary imine is impossible (pentavalent nitrogen does not exist).
The intermediate amine in the last step is secondary isn't it? Or did you mean timecubes amide amination-but I think he meant the carbonyl group.
Seriously, dry distillation (or some other way of coupling) of chloroacetates? Anyone?

Helgoland

EDIT: Even simpler would be creating dicyanoacetone from 3-oxoglutaric acid which can be made from citric and sulfuric acid.
        On dry distillation: Doing it with 2-cyanoacetates might be a good idea as well.
One more EDIT: Epichlorohydrine + Cl- --> dichloropropanole -->--> NPP -->--> fentanyl
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Re: New way to fentanyl
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2011, 05:22:32 PM »
All right, this is one cool way of making dichloroacetone:
http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/prep.asp?prep=cv1p0292
And then:
http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/orgsyn/prepContent.asp?prep=cv1p0211
Yield is each time about 70%, making it an overall 49% - from glycerol, acetic acid, hydrogen chloride and an oxidant!

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