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OoBYCoO's LC Lid & Brown Rice Syrup LC TEK
« on: March 24, 2011, 01:51:12 AM »
Let's start w/ making an LC lid...

You need a jar and lid that can be PC'ed, I used a vaccutainer injection port that I removed from a test tube but you can use RVT silicone, and I used a filter patch from a used bag (after it was thoroughly cleaned and disinfected w/ bleach) but a Whattman filter plug is ideal.


OK now you need to make a hole in the lid for the injection port.  I start off using the smallest drill bit and gradually increase bit size till I get it to the desired size.  There's two reasons for this, first the thinner bits tend to be sharper and can make a cleaner hole in the metal lid w/o tearing the metal and ruining your lid like the duller thicker bits would.  Second, you don't want to accidentally make the hole too big.  I try to make it just big enough so I can barely fit the port in, making it snug and as tight a fit as possible.


Next, you need to make a hole for FAE...


You may also opt not to make an FAE hole...


Now you need to cut the filter patch to your desired size.  I cut mine in half, then took one of the halves and cut again in half giving me 2 squares which is what I'll be using (2 layers, one square on top of the other)...


It's time to get your silicone ready...


Put some of the caulk around the hole that you made for FAE, giving it a wide birth so as not to accidentally fill the hole w/ silicone (that would defeat the whole purpose).  Place the filter patch on, then put some more caulk lining the the perimeter of the square and place the second one on top.  Take some excess caulk and put some more going from the edge of the patch to the lid.  Also, put some caulk around the injection port where the port meets the lid (on both sides).


Let the silicone cure over night, the next day when you're ready to make the LC, clean it thoroughly before starting.   :D

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So now you're ready to make the LC...

[My PC is busted so I'll be using a steamer]
Fill the pot w/ regular water and bring to a boil.  While the water is heating up, make your measurements to figure out how much water you will need for your jar.  Once the water is boiling turn off the heat and place the measuring cup w/ the DISTILLED water already measured out inside.


Use 1 teaspoon of brown rice syrup per 250ml of DISTILLED water.


Stir and mix it up.  The reason I do this is b/c the heat from the warm water outside of the measuring cup helps to dissolve the syrup into the distilled water.


Fill up your jar and place it in the steamer.  Bring the water to a boil again and let it sit for 90 min's.


Viola!!!  Brown Rice Syrup LC!!!   :stickdance:


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Inoculating the LC...

I inoculate my LC's w/ agar wedges, but you could do it w/ a spore syringe.  OK so gather everything you're going to need/use and sterilize. [NOTE: These procedures should be done in front of a laminar flow hood or glove box.]


Loosen the lid, but don't open it yet.  [If you're using a spore syringe, you don't need to do this, just plunge the needle through the port... after you sterilized it of course (needle AND jar/lid).]
Open up your plate of colonized agar and using your scalpel cut the desired sector.  It doesn't have to be a huge piece... you can even put 2 small pieces in if you want...


Try to do this step as quickly as possible w/ the least amount of air movement.  After you've put the wedge in, close the jar up tight and don't forget to label it...


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Don't worry about the cloudiness, it's just the brown rice syrup.  After the myc starts to develop it will start to clear up b/c that's its food!!!  lol  This is what you'll end up with...

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Re: OoBYCoO's LC Lid & Brown Rice Syrup LC TEK
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 09:38:57 PM »
Nice!

I am starting to play with different methods of shroom cultivation as soon as exams are over...
Since I don't have pressure cooker and I hate working with that thing,this looks like way to go.
I have few questions and ideas regarding LC:
How faster is this method compared to PF tek,using only verm and brown rice!?
Is there anything worth mentioning when you transfer this liquid micelllium into solid substrate
and what is the best solid substrate? Any specific problems?
What about H2O2?!

Adding some H2O2 in the LC before heat sterilization along with few specs of MnO2(maybe even KI ) might be an good idea!
H2O2 kills all the spores (I think),and MnO2+heat break down H2O2 pretty quickly so in theory,
even the most resistant contaminants are gone pretty fast after you add H2O2/heat and
all the H2O2 is gone when tiny MnO2 chips stop floating and forming bubbles around them.
(It may take few hours or day,depending on how much H2O2 is needed)
Now spores can be added and LC is richer in O2 than usual. Of course,magnetic stirring might help.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2011, 09:50:17 PM by Oerlikon »
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Re: OoBYCoO's LC Lid & Brown Rice Syrup LC TEK
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 02:25:54 AM »
I don't add any H202.  It can be detrimental to myc development.  You can use LC w/ the PF tek.  Instead of using a multispore syringe you use a LC syringe.  The advantage is faster colonization of the substrate giving you faster results, which as I stated, you can use on BRF cakes.  LC's can be used for any and all substrates, it depends on your personal preference on what you like to use.

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Re: OoBYCoO's LC Lid & Brown Rice Syrup LC TEK
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 03:06:47 AM »
Interesting.
I read somewhere that LC is used not only for faster colonization but for supstrates that are harder to sterilize
and supstrates that are treated with H2O2.

H2O2 sounds like great breaktrough over bulky pressure hookers.
Unfortunately i was unable to find any good references on right technique,only some
lame site that sells manuals.
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Re: OoBYCoO's LC Lid & Brown Rice Syrup LC TEK
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 03:19:02 AM »
LC's are used for everything!  lol  The only downfall w/ them is that you don't know if you have any contamination in the LC until you use it to inoculate.  That's why I use agar wedges that I know for a fact aren't contaminated rather then multispore (where you don't know if that has contamination either until used) to inoculate my LC's.

In regards to H202 I don't use it ANY of my recipes for LC's, agar, substrates, etc.  If you have good sterile techniques then the H202 shouldn't be needed IMO.  If you go look on shroomery.org they have an overabundance of tek's and tutorials on how to go about EVERYTHING mushroom related.  ;D

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Re: OoBYCoO's LC Lid & Brown Rice Syrup LC TEK
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 12:53:18 AM »
Very nice!

For bulk cultivation, I like the leached cow manure method as described in Paul Stamets' book Mycelium Running.  Maybe I can get a friend to write up a faq.

There's something nice about meter+ wide, 25 meter long mounds of substrate (or trenches in drier climates).

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Re: OoBYCoO's LC Lid & Brown Rice Syrup LC TEK
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 10:18:31 PM »
Thank you sir!  Yeah, you definitely should write that up... I know I could use a good guide for that!