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A chemistry archive
« on: April 02, 2011, 12:48:46 PM »
Topic: A chemistry archive (Read 1287 times)
The Lone Stranger
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psychexplorer
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2011, 01:14:02 PM »
Having this resource would be amazing. The merged Rhodiums and Hives, in an offline searchable format, would save me a tremendous amount of time bounding around mirrors.
overunity33
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2011, 06:00:43 PM »
talk to vesp about maybe being able to use the FTP here...
Wev been working on an ergot superpack
Wev been working on an ergot superpack
Wizard X
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100 GB storage & traffic for chemistry archive?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2011, 12:50:14 AM »
Consider getting a 4shared Premium Account with 100 GB storage & traffic? $6.50 per month for 1 year. http://www.4shared.com/premium.jsp?ref=itop
Shake
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2011, 02:15:57 AM »
i had the hive archives, most are post 2000 though, there are some that are simply lost from when strike and them were around.. Then rhodium archive is everywhere, you could probably get that off a torrent, you could probably get hive archives from there too..
i would imagine it is not compact and sorted into the best posts.. there would be alot of shit there too.. and even there is a bit of mis information.. usefull posts and topics i have seen could be put into about 30 pages..
i would imagine it is not compact and sorted into the best posts.. there would be alot of shit there too.. and even there is a bit of mis information.. usefull posts and topics i have seen could be put into about 30 pages..
psychexplorer
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2011, 02:22:38 AM »
7z (LZMA2/ultra) the iso and put it on Megaupload. It is probably better that nobody's billing information is associated with an account hosting an ultimate drug synthesis collection.
psychexplorer
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2011, 02:34:48 AM »
One of the problems with so many Hive and Rhodium collections is that almost none of them seem complete.
I don't think I can recall a single one which isn't missing at least one file compared to the others.
This leads to a rather annoying situation where one must browse several Rhodiums and several Hives to locate good information.
If he's merged everything then that is an awesome resource. It should probably replace the Rhodium and Hive archives hosted here.
Hopefully I'll come into an appreciable quantity of free time soon. I've been meaning to get my own files organized, sorted, deduped, and purged of obsolete/useless/redundant information.
The distributed nature of the Internet has been great for developing new techniques, discovering old ones, and keeping information alive through community shutdowns and busts. The side effect of all that is a very chaotic and disorganized knowledge base. It is a shame that a group of trusted contributors doesn't build an edit and view restricted Wiki to help bring everything from all common sources into a single resource.
I don't think I can recall a single one which isn't missing at least one file compared to the others.
This leads to a rather annoying situation where one must browse several Rhodiums and several Hives to locate good information.
If he's merged everything then that is an awesome resource. It should probably replace the Rhodium and Hive archives hosted here.
Hopefully I'll come into an appreciable quantity of free time soon. I've been meaning to get my own files organized, sorted, deduped, and purged of obsolete/useless/redundant information.
The distributed nature of the Internet has been great for developing new techniques, discovering old ones, and keeping information alive through community shutdowns and busts. The side effect of all that is a very chaotic and disorganized knowledge base. It is a shame that a group of trusted contributors doesn't build an edit and view restricted Wiki to help bring everything from all common sources into a single resource.
Wizard X
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2011, 02:09:03 AM »
Well, you have the FREE 4shared option with 2Gb upload, 10Gb storage, BUT with restrictions. I've downloaded 7Gb from a free 4shared, took awhile, but downloaded fine.
Try some of the other hosting sites, or connect your own server (http, ftp, torrent) to your home or work ISP?
Split into 500Mb 7z archive size.
Try some of the other hosting sites, or connect your own server (http, ftp, torrent) to your home or work ISP?
Split into 500Mb 7z archive size.
Sedit
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 05:39:27 AM »
I would like to offer up my old site if its still avalible. I would also request that any and all software made for this iso to become searchable be made open source so that its contents can be reviewed to ensure it contains no malware with the intent of gathering information about our members.
Vesp
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 10:27:52 PM »
It is still available, as are all the files that the vespiary used to hold.. I mean - I still have the files saved in a few places... Just have no real means to upload them to anything
Wizard X
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 12:10:47 AM »
It is still available, as are all the files that the vespiary used to hold.. I mean - I still have the files saved in a few places... Just have no real means to upload them to anything
Not sure what you mean? File server, web server, or Network Mass Storage?
I would like to offer up my old site if its still available. I would also request that any and all software made for this iso to become searchable be made open source so that its contents can be reviewed to ensure it contains no malware with the intent of gathering information about our members.
There is no reason to include software into that archive. Should be ONLY, .txt, .pdf, .djvu .html (with no imbedded java, active X scripting, etc) & .doc (no imbedded macros) files. Including all graphic file formats.
One index database .hjt file (using treepad: www.treepad.com) should be included into the root of the ISO - that has links to the archived files and links from forum discussion relevant to the archived file.
Members can download the free TreePad Viewer (www.treepad.com/treepadviewer) to view & search the index database .hjt file.
psychexplorer
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 01:11:12 AM »
An archive for the ages really should be in open formats. This would preclude proprietary, closed software like Treepad, which doesn't age well, and is incompatible for those of us running GNU/Linux or Mac.
Directories aren't really a good option, either. Organizing specific documents by target compounds works in some instances, but how would one place a document describing something as versatile and widely applicable as the tried-and-true Al/Hg reductive amination? Some specific experimental data on certain targets could be grouped in the folder for that target, but in reality, Al/Hg is a subject of its own.
This is why compilation on a wiki makes sense. The nature of hypertext linking allows all information to stay in context and linked to and from other relevant information, without any paradigm as constrictive as that of file/folder, which limits each object to one parent node.
There is no generally applicable schema for the relationships between the various types of information in the archive. That needs a free flowing relation like a hyperlink where the source and target can be anything, with context and purpose provided by the text itself.
A wiki developed by multiple users online can easily be distilled into a directory for offline viewing.
Directories aren't really a good option, either. Organizing specific documents by target compounds works in some instances, but how would one place a document describing something as versatile and widely applicable as the tried-and-true Al/Hg reductive amination? Some specific experimental data on certain targets could be grouped in the folder for that target, but in reality, Al/Hg is a subject of its own.
This is why compilation on a wiki makes sense. The nature of hypertext linking allows all information to stay in context and linked to and from other relevant information, without any paradigm as constrictive as that of file/folder, which limits each object to one parent node.
There is no generally applicable schema for the relationships between the various types of information in the archive. That needs a free flowing relation like a hyperlink where the source and target can be anything, with context and purpose provided by the text itself.
A wiki developed by multiple users online can easily be distilled into a directory for offline viewing.
Wizard X
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Standalone archive format
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2011, 01:52:46 AM »
An archive for the ages really should be in open formats. This would preclude proprietary, closed software like Treepad, which doesn't age well, and is incompatible for those of us running GNU/Linux or Mac.
A wiki developed by multiple users online can easily be distilled into a directory for offline viewing.
Have a read on "Compatibility" & "features" @ www.treepad.com/treepadviewer Standalone app, will run on Windows, Linux & Apple.
Treepad .hjt file, or .tpd file, can be exported to TXT, HTML, etc.
Agreed! Wiki is another option. However, requires a web server, Wiki software installation, admin & mods, etc.
psychexplorer
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2011, 05:14:58 PM »
Their own website disowns the Linux version. When somebody suggests wine over native Linux ELF, the application shouldn't be considered anywhere past alpha. Until they get the native version working, then open up the source, the Linux port might as well not exist.
Sedit
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 04:26:20 AM »
Please adress my security concerns next post you make or I will remove these files. Im not being a dick but I will protect our members here and right now I am worried about myself downloading it since I know very very little about what that download contains... the host carrying the file and tracking my IP address... and in general... You!
So please take some time to calm my little nerves next time you sign in or I think this will vanish relatively soon.
So please take some time to calm my little nerves next time you sign in or I think this will vanish relatively soon.
nk40ouvm
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2011, 01:23:05 AM »
I have no worries about uploading.com, at least no worries that wouldn't apply to every other free file host like rapidshare, ifile.it, megaupload, etc.
I was able to download the 4 parts faster than expected, all in one (long) day using a single IP address. I'm also not worried about malware in any executable files within this archive because I simply won't use them.
But this ISZ format sucks! The free demo versions of AnyToIso and UltraIso won't deal with an .isz image this large. Newer Daemon Tools is supposed to read it but newer free versions of DT are stuffed full of adware/crapware. So my choices are to install crapware to get a new DT, pay money, or take a chance on getting even worse crapware with a cracked version of some software that converts .isz. This is way too much effort to open an archive. What's wrong with making a multipart RAR or 7Z archive of a plain old .iso?
I don't want to crap all over what was surely a substantial effort in making this compilation, but the annoying .isz format renders it useless to me. I have substantial archives of my own but I'm not going to open this one and cross-check if it's going to be a day-long adventure to open the archive without paying money or risking computer infection.
I was able to download the 4 parts faster than expected, all in one (long) day using a single IP address. I'm also not worried about malware in any executable files within this archive because I simply won't use them.
But this ISZ format sucks! The free demo versions of AnyToIso and UltraIso won't deal with an .isz image this large. Newer Daemon Tools is supposed to read it but newer free versions of DT are stuffed full of adware/crapware. So my choices are to install crapware to get a new DT, pay money, or take a chance on getting even worse crapware with a cracked version of some software that converts .isz. This is way too much effort to open an archive. What's wrong with making a multipart RAR or 7Z archive of a plain old .iso?
I don't want to crap all over what was surely a substantial effort in making this compilation, but the annoying .isz format renders it useless to me. I have substantial archives of my own but I'm not going to open this one and cross-check if it's going to be a day-long adventure to open the archive without paying money or risking computer infection.
Wizard X
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2011, 01:33:03 AM »
I have no worries about uploading.com, at least no worries that wouldn't apply to every other free file host like rapidshare, ifile.it, megaupload, etc.
I was able to download the 4 parts faster than expected, all in one (long) day using a single IP address. I'm also not worried about malware in any executable files within this archive because I simply won't use them.
The archive should NOT contain a "AUTORUN.INF" file, so it doesn't auto run when you mount it, or burn to DVD.
Sedit
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2011, 11:59:13 PM »
I want your freind to know that im glad he has performed this work and taken the time to do so but I dont want him to be offended when I question the contents of the program. This is my job, to protect members of this site. Its all to easy for LE to spread simular content with built in key loggers obtaining every last little bit of information you can imagine about the person that downloaded such a program. I know this is fact because I use to do that very thing along time ago for different reasons.
I wanted to know about the mention he made about the creator of this site...... can you link me to that thread please?
As stated he should not take offense but if he does not understand my concerns then I dont know what to do.
I wanted to know about the mention he made about the creator of this site...... can you link me to that thread please?
As stated he should not take offense but if he does not understand my concerns then I dont know what to do.
Wizard X
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 04:39:44 AM »
Sedit i understand your concern and so does he but theres nothing more he can do to allay any justifyed angst. I tested it on my system. I have my system set up so that i can do any work off line and then if i feel the need just wipe my hard disk and then put a clean previous acronis copy in afterwards . It takes less than ten minutes .That way i have no fears that i might have caught malware and can try what i want in safety. Maybe that is a way that anyone who wants to could try it with no danger.
Yes, that is how you should protect yourself, unfortunately many members here DON'T HAVE THEIR HARD DRIVE FULL IMAGED - JUST AS MEMBERS SHOULD...
Surf the Internet in Guest account, with ALL Java, Active X, Flash, and other scripting disabled to protect yourself from drive-by website malware infection.
Or simply compile it so ONLY, .txt, .pdf, .djvu .html (with no imbedded java, active X scripting, etc) & .doc (no imbedded macros) files. All graphic file formats are fine and let members do their own index file?
Such as...
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/lookdisk.html
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/SearchMyFiles.html Standalone software, no installation required.
Wizard X
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Re: A chemistry archive
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2011, 06:13:56 AM »
He said.
I tried to download Lookdisk and got this
"Forbidden You don't have permission to access /ldw_eng/setup.exe on this server.Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."
Downloaded fine for me. This is the download link http://www.fxsearch.com/ldw_eng/setup.exe