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akcom

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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2011, 04:21:45 AM »
You don't even need a fake ID to set up a paypal or ebay account in a fictitious name. Just buy a visa gift card, register it to some random name and viable address, set up an account and make the purchase. Always better to send to someone not involved who knows the legit uses if you don't have a drop box set up, always better to be cautious. Doesn't even have to be their name, just an address that can accept it for you.

I recall looking into that Visa gift card thing a couple years ago, getting discouraged and giving up because I kept finding that all of them wanted a SSN when you went to register it online so that it could be used to purchase things online. How did you get around that one? There's a card called a Simon gift card that I was able to buy anonymously at a mall kiosk, which was cool but then when I went to see about registering it (anonymously), I found all this frickin Patriot Act stuff attached that required a social, defeating the anonymity attempt. Do you just simply use a fake SSN too? I assumed at the time that fake SSNs would immediately get flagged as not matching the name or whatever. If it's Patriot Act shit, then they "should" be able to easily cross-reference SSNs and names, you'd think!! You would have to explain to me how/why this is not the case, if it's not.

We need a whole big thread on financial anonymity techniques... or... maybe that wouldn't be such a great idea...
There are unscrupulous people that will sell you a persons credit info (name, dob, address, SSN, etc).  they are mostly aimed at people that steal credit cards, but they work equally well for getting a greendot/netspend card.  If you want more info feel free to PM me

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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2011, 08:39:18 AM »
  WoW  if you guys are saying the same things,,its just like buying a prepaid i-tunes card- visa, vigin ALL have ....pay ya cash, and off you dash,,to spend on-line , as the money is guaranteed,,because it isnt a "credit or debit (rechargeable) card" its a one time use debit card...like a Ph card sort of...its all numbers,,no names
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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2011, 02:48:28 PM »
I did some pretty serious searching last night on the subject of gift cards and which ones do/don't need SSNs given as part of registering them, and there is a TON of conflicting info out there. So much so that after over 1.5 hours of searching nothing was any clearer than when I started. Except maybe that most of them DO need SSNs. It did appear to me that ostensibly, the SSNs submitted with registering any of them are run though gov't databases. Whether this really happens is another question.

The "phenolic aldehyde" card in particular had hundreds of complaints from people saying it's a scam and that the cards don't work---but the complaints nearly all seemed to be coming from people who actually were recipients of the cards as gifts and had tried to just use them without registering them, so of course they wouldn't have worked at some places. People evidently are all too prone to run off and post rabid complaints before checking out the instructions for their gift.

As I said I already bought the nitrite from eYouknowwho, and 100g will be more than I'll ever need. Hopefully it's not a problem as has been opined here. I tried to look up my entire purchase history on there to see what it looked like, but haven't figured out yet if that's possible (it would only look back 60 days for some reason). In the last 60 days I bought the nitrite and a small heating mantle, hopefully that is nothing big... I won't be ordering anything else from there.
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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2011, 03:01:52 PM »
There are unscrupulous people that will sell you a persons credit info (name, dob, address, SSN, etc).  they are mostly aimed at people that steal credit cards, but they work equally well for getting a greendot/netspend card.  If you want more info feel free to PM me

Sorry for double-posting.

That is tempting to do it that way, but it's hard to imagine possibly setting the "authoritays" against some poor guy whose ID info got jacked. In fact, here's another reason I probably couldn't do it: If real (stolen) info were used as the billing address on a gift card registration, and the card owner makes a purchase online but has the item shipped to a friend's house, then the friend could potentially be implicated in an identity theft scenario. With a fake name, at least it's just a fake name and not stolen ID info.

The best way is obviously a card that either doesn't require SSN or with which a fake SSN works in registering it, but I may still not have a grip on this subject...
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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2011, 03:11:12 PM »
Never forget what I told you about reducing Nitric acid to Nitros acid using Sodium Bisulfate, that information could prove valuable somewhere along the line.
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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2011, 04:09:21 PM »
Methyl Man, I think the best way is to use a fake id for a drop box + the netspend for purchases

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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2011, 07:00:14 PM »
The SSNs are matched against credit bureaus and private data warehouses. What they're looking for is some record of the claimed person matching that SSN, and occasionally, residing at the claimed address.

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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2011, 12:25:07 AM »
The SSNs are matched against credit bureaus and private data warehouses. What they're looking for is some record of the claimed person matching that SSN, and occasionally, residing at the claimed address.

Sounds right. But if the phenolic aldehyde card doesn't need an SSN to be registered, then that is the preferred one for sure...
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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2011, 01:20:11 AM »
I'm pretty sure eGay doesn't release personal information to third party sellers. I could be wrong.

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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2011, 02:57:42 AM »
Methyl Man, I think the best way is to use a fake id for a drop box

+2, Most certainly. ONLY thing you have to worry about then is security cameras...or one security camera lol You get one with an open door policy and you can go at 4am. No one there, you can obscure your face relatively easily with a hat from on camera. Get one in another state, they'll have fun trying to ID you lol They sign for packs, this makes a CD much more complicated on LEO's part and puts them on your clock. Counter surveillance is simple. No one will be there or within a couple blocks radius if everything is go. Never order anything from the US that is suspicious. 1 million asian/indian companies will send to you no questions asked and change the label.
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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2011, 05:28:00 AM »
I would make nitrite just as I would make hydroxylamine.

way to many cladenstine uses.
any info on that idea of yours sedit ?

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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2011, 05:35:30 AM »
I would make hydroxylamine also but not a nitrite salt. Too many other uses to consider it suspicious. I've ordered a ton without an eyebrow raised. Still have 5lb I need to use. Depends on your location really though.
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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2011, 06:45:20 AM »
I would make nitrite just as I would make hydroxylamine.

way to many cladenstine uses.

You know what, that is so wrong though if they (eB*y) allow people to sell things that have a hundred legit uses, make money themselves from that sale, but then turn around and report the sale to the cops and call it suspicious. That is just ALL wrong. If they think an item is so sketchy, then they should not allow it to be sold. It's basically entrapment of a sort.  If they don't allow restricted/watched things like methylamine or red phosphorus to be sold there, fine, but then whatever they DO allow to be sold should be free of any suspicion---or don't allow it.

And if their way instead is to let the cops comb through their records on fishing expeditions, without demanding warrants specifying exactly what they are looking for and why, then that is very wrong too.
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Re: Stumbling over sodium nitrite
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2011, 03:13:29 PM »
 It "IS WRONG" and IMO ,its YOU Methyl Man and all the "Other thinkers" OF this world ARE Right,, But to 'change this problem',,which is one of 'ignorance and fear',,WE have to each, in our "own little ways", slowly start teaching 'The Sheeple' about these "contradictions" in our "thinking vs behavior" 
  Many sheeple Dont "walk their Talk"
   It's a 'step' in the Education of these "People who are 'scared' to Live" (for many reasons) ..for them to "live in 'ignorance, with The Devils they Know aka "Their govts, and Blind Faith in them",,together with the superficial material world of "things, NOT Feelings",,,Half Braindead already,(But 'they dont know this',, they 'live,' in, A world that "IS being Abused" by selfish IGNORANT/misinformed Sheeple' who NEED to 'change their povs about "Why the fuck they Are Alive!
 Forums like these are a Good Thing  for keeping "the Thinkers Thinking"  Problems are EASY to find ...Solutions are a much more difficult to 'come up with'...this Forum IS 'part of the 'solutions'......A Good team of varied povs, "Sharing the Love"
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