Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level)
« on: April 28, 2011, 03:57:32 AM »
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level)
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 04:15:55 AM »
At least the good things aren't on the list.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 06:39:07 AM »
I love methylone, like MDMA but minus all the rushes. Great for just chilling. The JWH-* compounds are really interesting effects wise too. MDPV is good to stay up and get stuff done. Won't change availability in my opinion. Still sad to see them listed. Glad none of the psychedelic tryptamines were added though. Man methylone!
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 12:29:21 AM »
well they left a lot out like 5 and 6 apb which will be the next greatest fad.
from what i read it is almost indistinguishable from mda.
none of these are as good as the real stuff however.
it looks like a good opportunity to sell the real stuff as the research counterpart and i don't think it would generate too many complaints either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-APB
and a lot of the tryptamines and the nmbome's are off the shit list too.
from what i read it is almost indistinguishable from mda.
none of these are as good as the real stuff however.
it looks like a good opportunity to sell the real stuff as the research counterpart and i don't think it would generate too many complaints either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-APB
and a lot of the tryptamines and the nmbome's are off the shit list too.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 12:53:33 AM »
I hate that witch Feinstein with every fiber of my being. She has been responsible for so much harsh, needless legislation it boggles the mind.
She just cannot stand the idea of anyone having a good time on anything but alcohol or tobacco. She is this psychotic, evil denmother freak who thinks it's her responsibility to make sure no one in America gets high. I'm quite sure that most of the male senators are totally intimidated by her (those spineless little worms).
She's so upset about the increase in one year to a few thousand calls to poison control centers about research chemicals, yet I'm sure she doesn't lose a single wink of sleep over the 22,000 people every year in the US that die of alcohol poisoning (including kids) and 5,000,000 that die from cigarettes... it's obvious that her concern has nothing to do with peoples' health and everything to do with controlling people and jailing them for victimless crimes.
F#ckin' c*nt!!!
She just cannot stand the idea of anyone having a good time on anything but alcohol or tobacco. She is this psychotic, evil denmother freak who thinks it's her responsibility to make sure no one in America gets high. I'm quite sure that most of the male senators are totally intimidated by her (those spineless little worms).
She's so upset about the increase in one year to a few thousand calls to poison control centers about research chemicals, yet I'm sure she doesn't lose a single wink of sleep over the 22,000 people every year in the US that die of alcohol poisoning (including kids) and 5,000,000 that die from cigarettes... it's obvious that her concern has nothing to do with peoples' health and everything to do with controlling people and jailing them for victimless crimes.
F#ckin' c*nt!!!
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level)
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2011, 03:00:28 AM »
She just cannot stand the idea of anyone having a good time on anything but alcohol or tobacco. She is this psychotic, evil denmother freak who thinks it's her responsibility to make sure no one in America gets high. I'm quite sure that most of the male senators are totally intimidated by her (those spineless little worms).
well put. i can't stand alcohol, it's a shitty sloppy archaic drug. it's nobody's business WTF a person's drug of choice is, as long as they're not causing problems for other people. i never did get to try methylone or any of those MDxx RC's, never tried mephedrone either. i was under the impression that none of them come class to the real deal anyway. plus a lot of the RC vendors are crooks, i hear of people getting scammed and giving fucked up trip reports on bluelight. i saw a link over at bluelight where GC/MS was done on some MDAI and a few other RC's that were ordered from different vendors online. i think only one of them was really what it was supposed to be, the rest were a mix of caffeine as the primary ingredient and suspected piperazines as well.
now there's talk about a ridiculous amount of synthetic cannaboids on the way. this kind of worries me. the reason it worries me is because i could see the government modifying the analog act in a way to include a much wider scope of compounds or passing a new ridiculous law to try to get "control" over these new compounds, taking away even more of our freedom. that's what worries me.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2011, 03:33:30 AM »
^a lot of them have stuff on MDMA. For different reasons of course. They all have a slightly different feel. Some mellower, some stronger than MDMA. Pick up some if you get a chance. Just gotta talk to people who know what they are talking about and you'll find pure legit anything. I grabbed 100g even though people will still be offering it lol Haven't done any in close to a year and a half, should be fun!
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2011, 03:51:24 AM »
It's so much more than that. The powers that be are angered beyond belief by the thought that independent people can go on about their own, unlicensed, unregulated, uncontrolled lives, with little to no regard for the lives which have been meticulously planned for them.
We're dealing with narcissistic control freaks of one flavor or another, whether it extends to drugs, spending, religion, education, social planning, law and order, or anything else.
The self-appointed masters of the universe see any rejection of their control and their plans as being an affront to their intelligence.
That vile bitch is not going to lose a wink of sleep over it, because she'll be going back to her mansion, immune from what she's inflicted on the rest of us, by confiscating sizable sums from our work, to be spent on our own control, imprisonment, and "care" as though we were livestock.
I'm just waiting for an ergoline source available to the competent clandestine chemist. Once it's there, we can begin to smash this whole rotten mess down. If acid labs proliferated like X labs, we'd already be on our way to a higher state of consciousness.
We're dealing with narcissistic control freaks of one flavor or another, whether it extends to drugs, spending, religion, education, social planning, law and order, or anything else.
The self-appointed masters of the universe see any rejection of their control and their plans as being an affront to their intelligence.
That vile bitch is not going to lose a wink of sleep over it, because she'll be going back to her mansion, immune from what she's inflicted on the rest of us, by confiscating sizable sums from our work, to be spent on our own control, imprisonment, and "care" as though we were livestock.
I'm just waiting for an ergoline source available to the competent clandestine chemist. Once it's there, we can begin to smash this whole rotten mess down. If acid labs proliferated like X labs, we'd already be on our way to a higher state of consciousness.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2011, 04:16:02 AM »
I think NPH is right here.
It's going to get to the point where any unapproved consciousness altering substance will be criminalized as a danger to "social order" or "public health."
They've already shut down unapproved childrens' toys and clothing, creating new felonies for small businesspeople, hobbyists, and independent craftsmen.
In a few years, it will be a crime to not buy approved health insurance. One has to wonder if, as a condition of acceptance, it will require mandatory drug tests - you know, so that nobody is a "drain on public health."
They're closing in on unapproved food and supplements. In many states, buying raw milk from a farmer is a criminal act.
Since society is so interested in managing everyone's business, when will the point come where it's easier to simply declare what is allowed rather than what is banned, just so that nobody acts in any socially unapproved manner?
After all, if they have a financial interest in your health or productivity, then they basically already own your body. They've trained the other inmates to yell fairly loudly about people who stick out and are a "burden", with the goal of having one pleb shame another into compliance. As long as A is at B's throat over B's drug use, and B is at A's throat over A's lack of exercise, neither is questioning why C is in control.
h**p://www.huzheng.org/geniusreligion/BraveNewWorld.pdf
It's going to get to the point where any unapproved consciousness altering substance will be criminalized as a danger to "social order" or "public health."
They've already shut down unapproved childrens' toys and clothing, creating new felonies for small businesspeople, hobbyists, and independent craftsmen.
In a few years, it will be a crime to not buy approved health insurance. One has to wonder if, as a condition of acceptance, it will require mandatory drug tests - you know, so that nobody is a "drain on public health."
They're closing in on unapproved food and supplements. In many states, buying raw milk from a farmer is a criminal act.
Since society is so interested in managing everyone's business, when will the point come where it's easier to simply declare what is allowed rather than what is banned, just so that nobody acts in any socially unapproved manner?
After all, if they have a financial interest in your health or productivity, then they basically already own your body. They've trained the other inmates to yell fairly loudly about people who stick out and are a "burden", with the goal of having one pleb shame another into compliance. As long as A is at B's throat over B's drug use, and B is at A's throat over A's lack of exercise, neither is questioning why C is in control.
h**p://www.huzheng.org/geniusreligion/BraveNewWorld.pdf
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 04:27:24 AM »
There's another one for the rest of the 2C-*'s
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-839
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-839
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 04:31:14 AM »
Still no tryptamines listed lol I should just shut up and not jinx it. This won't curve availability one bit, still legal in china.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 05:00:48 AM »
That new combating designer drugs bill, holy shit
I am so angry
I'm sure many have read around on other forums... BL shroomery etc
This is ridiculous
I cannot express mmy anger enough
I am so angry
I'm sure many have read around on other forums... BL shroomery etc
This is ridiculous
I cannot express mmy anger enough
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 02:57:43 PM »
Wait a sec . . . . . so they took the trypts OFF the list? No way . . . . . ? They weren't on temp scheduling to my knowledge, and since when are these lists amended unless to ADD chems?!
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 05:47:00 AM »
They didn't take them off, they were never on.
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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 04:25:55 AM »
yeah i can't stand these jewish scum myself.
feinstein go to hell.
feinstein go to hell.
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Re: Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (U.S. Federal Level)
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 04:46:21 AM »
It's amazing what RC companies sell methylone for considering it costs less than 100USD/Kg
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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2011, 08:54:05 AM »
really it's that cheap?
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2011, 04:45:27 PM »
nah, more like a few thousand.
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 11:23:02 PM »
Yes, it's that cheap. There's many companies making this stuff in hundreds if not thousands of pounds. This is the way with many things you wouldn't probably think were so dirt cheap in the end.
It's not as if it's difficult or costly to do, especially on an industrial scale, given the markup and selling a small percentage likely covers the entire work up, as we well know is the case with most things even on smaller scales. Consider DIY projects for instance....
I guess it depends on where in the world you're looking and who you've established relationships with.
It's not as if it's difficult or costly to do, especially on an industrial scale, given the markup and selling a small percentage likely covers the entire work up, as we well know is the case with most things even on smaller scales. Consider DIY projects for instance....
I guess it depends on where in the world you're looking and who you've established relationships with.
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« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 02:37:54 AM »
The price it is being sold for online is not really about how much it cost to buy it bulk, rather the price reflects the risk they are taking on by selling it in small quantities to many different people online in the open. The risk that their freedom, money, and everything else could be taken away.
Risk vs Reward.
Risk vs Reward.