Out of curiosity, "how hot" do you think, that , or a similar reaction would be, and how concerned should one bee about 'Thermal Shock' shattering the reaction vessel when placing it in the ice bath?

  Cheers Hyppy

Some borosilicate glassware is better than other company's work, so that question is impossible to answer    The well prepared chemist has fans for cooling purposes as well, ghetto style chemistry is inherently far more dangerous    The end results from the effort applied   

As far as borosilicate glass, there's an article on Wikipedia:

h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borosilicate_glass

which is apparently too much effort to find without an extremely busy staff member posting a link    As far as whether cooling baths should be used to deal with runaway reactions, fortunately that's up to the reader to decide     Perhaps someone else will provide you with the answers you seem to want as far as thermodynamics    The second law of thermodynamics is still accepted by the scientific community and that's not likely to change anytime soon 

"The end results from the effort applied"

= not getting what you want , getting even more pissed off and pissing everyone you shout and moan at off .  Tailor your comments on the results you want to achieve or shut the fuck up ....... please ........sir .......

I'll agree with this,, but I dont think

telling " ANYONE,, "well prepared" or otherwise, to just plonk your runaway in a

"Tub of icewater"  UNLESS specificaly called for in a rxn --

doing so IS inherently Dangerous!!! ergo sum: To Be avoided,, NOT 'suggested'

Duh!......I stand by my post--who what how have YOU lugh Heped Anyone with your two/ except to "attempt to belittle another member

The advice that was offered to Methyl Man obviously got you upset, but indulging in personal attacks in a harm reduction thread is no place to express it    The obvious fallacy in your reasoning is that Methyl Man is the author of the procedure, and he wasn't aware of the incredible violent exothermic nature of the reduction of nitromethane once caustic soda was added    Exothermia is very dangerous, and telling members not to bee prepared for it is ignorant at best and quite possibly malicious    As has been stated before on the Hive in similar circumstances, we don't need any help in deciding what we should post 

"
The advice that was offered to Methyl Man obviously got you upset,".....Huh/ could you explain how you came to that "erroneous opinion"  

The obvious fallacy in your reasoning is that Methyl Manj(0); is

  Whoa! there cowboy...

    coz "THE obvious fallacy in YOUR (lack of ) "Reasonong",,is YOU'VE DONE NONE!

  (I think youve personally tested your products a wee too much Lugh)

 COZ......."Methyl man's got ABSOLUTELY NUTHIN to 'do with this'

Whoa! there cowboy...

    coz "THE obvious fallacy in YOUR (lack of ) "Reasonong",,is YOU'VE DONE NONE!

  (I think youve personally tested your products a wee too much Lugh)

 COZ......."Methyl man's got ABSOLUTELY NUTHIN to 'do with this' Huh

Once upon a time a long ways from home, someone who will bee called not-lugh tamed a runaway al-hg with the proverbial wet blanket using fans to provide cooling via evaporation  The runaway al-hg was caused by a bonehead who cut corners and bought regular thickness aluminum foil instead of the specified heavy duty Reynolds Wrap    The bonehead ran away once the reaction starting climbing up the condenser, but not-lugh tamed the runaway exothermia    The moral to this story is that those that can save the day will do so, while those that want to indulge in arguments on the internet always want the last word    This web site is for helping our members whenever possible    This argument is useless and off topic so it is being moved to Vacuous Posts where it belongs