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Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« on: June 23, 2011, 03:35:22 AM »
I have a theoretical interest in the use of Caro’s acid for the Baeyer-Villiger oxidation.

I haven’t made it to the university library to see what Fieser & Fieser and other standard references have to say, below is what I’ve gathered from SM, WD, Rhod and others skilled in the art on the net.  If anyone has any thoughts, suggestions or experiences they care to post or pm, it would be greatly appreciated.

The Chiang patent looks high-yielding, but you know how it is with non-peer reviewed patents.  Unless a social insect has reviewed them. . . .

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Title: Caro's Acid
CAS Name: Peroxymonosulfuric acid
Additional Names: sulfomonoperacid; persulfuric acid
Molecular Formula: H2O5S
Molecular Weight: 114.08
Literature References: Dry reagent is prepd by stirring 10 g potassium persulfate into 11 g concd H2SO4 for 10 min and adding 30 g finely powdered potassium sulfate; liquid reagent is obtained by triturating potassium persulfate with three times as much (by weight) of H2SO4; dil reagent is prepd by stirring 10 g potassium persulfate into 11 g concd H2SO4 and adding 50 cc ice: Baeyer, Villiger, Ber. 32, 3625 (1899).
Properties: The product is a sirupy liquid consisting of about equal amounts of Caro's acid and H2SO4. pK2 of Caro’s acid 9.4 ± 0.1. Oxygen is evolved at room temp; should be stored at dry ice temp.
pKa: pK2 of Caro’s acid 9.4 ± 0.1
CAUTION: Can be dangerously unstable, like most peroxides. Description of explosion at Brown University: J. O. Edwards, Chem. Eng. News 33, 3336 (1955). Explosion at Sun Oil, ibid. 38, 59 (Nov. 21, 1960). May be highly irritating to skin, eyes, mucous membranes.
Use: In prepn of dyes; oxidation of olefins to a-glycols; oxidation of ketones to lactones or esters.

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My other tip: use Caro's acid (H2SO5) for B/V step. Best yields in ballpark of 55 to 65% molar yield (!!! how awesome is that !!!).

The long and the short of it is that Caro's acid can be made from H2SO4 + (NH4)2.S2O8,

Persulfates in the BV reaction were the originally mentioned substrates by B and V themselves.

A number of fellow bees have reported a 50-60% molar yield, which yes, is much better than similar perborate/peracetic/performic experiments.

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Baeyer-Villiger Oxidation of Ketones
The reaction of peracids with ketones proceeds relatively slowly but allows for the conversion of ketones to esters in good yield. In particular, the conversion of cyclic ketones to lactones is synthetically useful because only a single product is to be expected. The reaction has been carried out with both percarboxylic acids and Caro's acid (formed by the combination of potassium persulfate with sulfuric acid).

Oxidations have been carried out using suspensions of dry reagent or solutions of persulfuric acid in concentrated or dilute sulfuric acid, in glacial acetic acid, in petroleum ether, and in ethanol-sulfuric acid.

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Persulfate oxidation of ketones (general procedure):
The oxidizing agent is prepared in a 500-ml flask equipped with a magnetic stirrer and cooled in an ice bath as follows: In the flask are placed 60 ml of concentrated sulfuric acid and 20 ml of water, and the solution is cooled to 10°. Potassium persulfate (42 g, 0.15 mole) is added slowly to the stirred solution while maintaining the temperature below 10°. The solution is diluted with an additional 65 ml of water maintaining the temperature below 15°. The solution is now cooled to about 7° and 0.08 mole of the ketone is added over 40 minutes. After the addition has been completed, the solution is allowed to come to room temperature and stirring is continued for 20 hours. The solution is diluted carefully with 150 ml of water and extracted twice with 75-ml portions of ether. The ether is washed with sodium bicarbonate solution, followed by water, and the ethereal solution is dried. Removal of the solvent, followed by fractional distillation, affords the product ester.
ref.: Monson, Richard S.; Advanced organic synthesis: methods and techniques (1971), p 11

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Fernandez and Schwartz, 3,4,5-Trinitroluene via Caro’s Acid Oxidation, J. Chemical and Engineering Data, Vol 15, No. 3, 1970
Caro’s acid was prepared by the method of Brady and Taylor (J. Chem Soc. 117, 876 (1920), Fieser and Fieser, Reagents for Organic Synthesis, p. 118 (1967)). using 60 grams of finely powdered ammonium persulfate dissolved in 44 ml of cold concentrated sulfuric acid.  The acid slurry and 100 grams of crushed ice were added to 9.95 g (0.0198 mole) of 3,5-dinitro-4-aminotoluene dissolved in 6 ml of concentrated sulfuric acid. . . .

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Synthesis of Caro's Acid
1. 145 g (0.64 moles) of ammonium persulfate was added to 54 ml of cold, concentrated H2SO4.
2. The mixture was allowed to stand for about an hour and poured into 355 g of
crushed ice.

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Caro acid (peroxymonosulfuric acid)
Ammonium persulfate (23.0 g) was added in small portions to 29.0 g of 85% H2SO4

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US Patent 4049786 by Chiang:
High strength peroxymonosulfate is prepared by adding concentrated sulfuric acid to a solution of a soluble peroxydisulfate whereby the heat of solvation of the sulfuric acid hydrolyzes the peroxydisulfate to the peroxymonosulfate; the temperature is controlled to provide a range of about 140° to 160° F. After about 15 to 45 minutes, the solution is cooled rapidly to about room temperature.
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It has been discovered that the desideratum aforesaid can be realized by a novel modification in the production of peroxymonosulfates from the hydrolysis of peroxydisulfates comprising the steps of:

a. providing a solution of a peroxydisulfate at about 100° F.;

b. mixing the peroxydisulfate solution of step (a) with concentrated sulfuric acid in a volume ratio of 1 to 0.07 to 1 to 0.15 whereby the heat of solvation of the sulfuric acid rapidly hydrolyzes the peroxydisulfate to produce a solution temperature between about 140° to 160° F.;

c. maintaining the resulting temperature of about 140 to 160° F. for about 5 to 45 minutes; and

d. rapidly cooling the solution to about room temperature.
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In carrying out the invention, a peroxydisulfate solution is prepared by dissolving a soluble peroxydisulfate salt in water and bringing the temperature of the solution to about 100° F. A convenient procedure consists in dissolving the persulfate in hot water at about 140° F. whereby the endothermic heat of dissolution lowers the temperature to the vicinity of 100° F. The concentration of the persulfate is not critical and solutions ranging from 0.1 m/l to saturation give satisfactory results. A preferred concentration is about 2 m/l since this provides minimum volume for easy handling while maximizing peroxymonosulfate yield for a given quantity of sulfuric acid. Any soluble peroxydisulfate is suitable, although for reasons of solubility and economy, sodium and ammonium peroxydisulfate are preferred and ammonium peroxydisulfate is most preferred.

The concentrated sulfuric acid should be sufficiently high to provide the desired heat of hydration directly; a convenient source is commercial 98% acid. To the approximately 100° F. solution of persulfate is added concentrated sulfuric acid in a ratio of 1 volume of the persulfate solution to 0.07 to 0.15 volume of concentrated sulfuric acid under conditions whereby the heat of solvation of the sulfuric acid rapidly initiates the hydrolysis reaction and produces a temperature range of about 140° to 160° F. The hydrolysis of the peroxydisulfate to the peroxymonosulfate proceeds rapidly at the temperature aforesaid, occuring to the extent of 50% to 80% in 15 minutes and is substantially complete in 30 to 45 minutes. Within the first 15 minute reaction period, essentially no hydrogen peroxide is formed. As the conversion proceeds to completion, the hydrogen peroxide content rises, thereby limiting the net conversion to about 80%. Accordingly, the overall practical reaction time can vary from about 5 to 45 minutes while the preferred range is about 15 to 20 minutes.

As above pointed out, the hydrolysis of the peroxydisulfate is conducted under conditions whereby the heat of solvation is utilized to initiate and sustain the reaction and to this end an insulated reaction zone may be used, particularly for small scale reactors where heat losses are proportionately greater than with large vessels. The reaction zone is also provided with cooling means in order to control the upper temperature range. Desirably, the reaction vessel is chosen in which heat losses are minimal while providing the temperature range for the hydrolysis. For laboratory scale runs, a Dewar flask serves as an excellent vessel for retaining reaction heat. An insulated vessel can also be used while large reactors may retain sufficient heat without extraneous insulation. Such thermal characteristics can readily be established by conducting a few trial runs.

After the hydrolysis has reached about 80% conversion, the reaction is rapidly cooled to room temperature and so maintained preparatory to being used.
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However, when the hydrolysis is carried out in accordance with the present invention utilizing the heat of solvation of sulfuric acid, the reaction is peculiarly speeded up and the desired peroxymonosulfate reaches maximum concentration in less than an hour. If the sulfuric acid and peroxydisulfate solution are mixed under room temperature conditions and then heated rapidly to about 150 F., the yield of peroxymonosulfate is only about 20%. For some reason, conducting the hydrolysis wherein the temperature is provided by the sulfuric acid heat of solvation plus the residual heat of the 100 F. peroxydisulfate solution greatly accelerates the rate of conversion. By way of a theory, it is suggested that the heat of solvation spreads so rapidly throughout the preheated 100 F. reaction zone that all reacting species are heated instantly to the optimum temperature, a condition not realized by heating the reaction zone by external means.

Reference is now made to the following non-limiting examples.

EXAMPLE 1

Hot water at about 140 F. was added to 91.3 g of ammonium peroxydisulfate in a 300 ml tall form beaker with mild agitation. The final solution volume was about 200 ml. The peroxydisulfate was dissolved in about one minute. The resulting solution temperature was about 100 F.

The solution was transferred to a Dewar flask. After allowing for temperature stabilization i.e., about 5 minutes, 20 ml of concentrated sulfuric acid was added using a magnetic stirrer; temperature rose immediately to 140 F. and stabilized at 158 F. after 15 minutes. About 30 minutes after the sulfuric acid addition, the solution was transferred to a 250 ml Erlenmeyer flask and rapidly cooled to room temperature with running tap water.

The solution was analyzed and found to contain 0.04 m/l of peroxydisulfate, 1.41 m/l of peroxymonosulfate and 0.23 m/l of hydrogen peroxide. The net conversion of peroxydisulfate to peroxymonosulfate was calculated to be 77.5%.

EXAMPLE 2

An experiment similar to Example 1 was carried out, except 100 g of sodium peroxydisulfate was used. Similar temperature changes for the solution were observed. After 45 minutes, the solution was cooled to room temperature.

Analysis showed the resulting solution contained 0.03 m/l of peroxydisulfate, 1.55 m/l of peroxymonosulfate and 0.20 m/l of hydrogen peroxide. The net conversion of peroxydisulfate to peroxymonosulfate was calculated to be 81.6%.

EXAMPLE 5

A 4 liter beaker equipped with a stainless steel cooling coil and a heater was used. Ammonium peroxydisulfate, about 912 g, was weighed out and transferred to the beaker. About 1.4 liters of hot tap water (about 140 F.) was added; the final volume was about 2 liters. Peroxydisulfate was found to completely dissolve in about a minute and the final solution temperature was reduced to 99 F. due to endothermic dissolution of peroxydisulfate.

When peroxydisulfate dissolution was completed, about 200 ml concentrated sulfuric acid was added with stirring using a magnetic stirrer. Within about 10 seconds, the solution temperature increased to 140 F. The solution temperature decreased to 136 F. in six minutes due to heat losses through the uninsulated beaker wall. The heater in the beaker was turned on and off to compensate for the heat losses thereby maintaining the solution at 140 F. About 15 minutes after the sulfuric acid addition, the solution was cooled to 77 F. by turning off the heater and running cold tap water through the cooling coil. The cooling took a total of four minutes.

The final solution was analyzed and found to contain 0.86 m/l of peroxydisulfate, 0.96 m/l of peroxymonosulfate and 0.02 m/l of hydrogen peroxide. The conversion from peroxydisulfate to peroxymonosulfate was calculated to be 52.2%.

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Rearrangement of aliphatic primary, secondary, and tertiary alkyl hydroperoxides in strong acid, Norman C. Deno, Wilbur E. Billups, Kenneth E. Kramer, and Robert R. Lastomirsky Journal of Organic Chemistry, 35, 3080-3082 (1970)
Solutions of K2S2O8 (effectively H2S05) in 20-60% H2SO4 are advantageous for the Baeyer-Villiger oxidation of ketones. Yields are quantitative and differences in migratory aptitudes are as large as or larger than those found with other peracids.
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Baeyer-Villiger Oxidation of Ketones.-A review of the Baeyer-Villiger reaction pointed out that only one simple aliphatic ketone had been reported and that other peracids were preferable to H2SO5. It was thus of some interest to find that solutions of K2S2O8 in 50% H2SO4 gave quantitative yields of the Baeyer-Villiger products for a variety of simple aliphatic ketones. The reactions were complete in minutes at 25°, and we cannot understand why this extremely simple procedure has not been utilized. Although K2S2O8 was used to generate H2SO5, addition of H2O2 would undoubtedly have led to identical results.

Yields limited by amount of acid actually formed.

Add acid to solvent/substrate kept below -15 by dry ice.

Variations in reaction conditions (1-18 hours at 0 or 2 hours at room temperature) showed no definite effect on yield

Ephoton:
I have had very little success with beayer villagers (sic) with persulfates unless they were in acetic acid which kind of kills the whole reason to use them.

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2011, 05:06:19 AM »
i don't think that's caro's acid that is oxone and i already put out  an academic paper on it.
someone gave me some notes on using this system to make mdp2p from ambp in one step.
i don't think it will work.
the groups adjacent to the aldehyde are'nt really electron donors.
with the exception the the alpha carbon alpha to the aldehyde is tertiary.
it might be possible but, this paper prooves otherwise.
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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2011, 01:10:24 PM »
When peroxydisulfate dissolution was completed, about 200 ml concentrated sulfuric acid

I think thats the acid not the salt.

if one adds persulfate too sulfuric I think you get caro's acid

im not sure about yeild on a persulfate reaction on an unsaturated ketone

the best ive seen is with organic peracids.

makes it a pain in the ass if your making your own organic acid to use as a peracid.

best yeilds ive seen is with a buffered performic or peracetic as done on isosaf on rhodium.
buffered peracetic probably being more gentle and higher yeilding.

just adjust the weight of the butenone to match the molar rate for isosaf that they
state.

it also makes for very easy extraction as the product ends up in the bottom layer
in the DCM which can be stripped off very easily.

I think bio was looking into distilling the enol ester and trying to recycle
the unsaturated ketone.

ive seen some success with doing this after the hydrolisis with caustic
if one uses steam to extract the final ketone as this will leave the unsaturated
ketone behind as it will not come over with steam.

if one uses steam as a way to purify the final ketone you will find a none sleepy
product at the end.

fractionation can leave resedue of the unsaturated ketone in the final product
to be reduced and this can make for a different quality to the end product.

as for side effects of this impurity I have not seen the result of long term use
probably best to steam it out if you have the choice.

ketone will come over then a very very light yellow or a clear colour if you use
a fractionating collumn as well as steam.
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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 01:43:59 AM »
jon,

I think Caro discovered a number of useful acids and reagents; this is the one typically used in the Baeyer-Villiger.  As shroomedalice deduced or intuited, I have an interest in a different substrate.

shroomedalice,

Thanks very much!!! for the information.

My Asperger's traits have also led me to an interest in the peracetic and performic Baeyer-Villiger alternatives to Bove's sodium perborate procedure originally recommended by the dogs.

Another alternative to Chromic's buffered peracetic would be bio's generation of peracetic via sodium perborate and 1% H2SO4, which has the additional advantage that bio reported good yields at room temperature, avoiding the potential exothermic runaways with the Bove procedure.

Also the generation of peracetic via US5462692 for acetylperoxyborate (PAB or peracetyl borate).  Reports (SM?) are that when prepared from sodium perborate tetrahydrate and added to water, it is an excellent "instant peracetic."  When prepared from the monohydrate and dried, it's stable for long term storage, but it's probably easier to just store the perborate.  The usual thick slurries to deal with, filtration or extraction.

There are reports in the bee literature, without any experimental or comparative detail, that Caro's is highest yielding B/V.  Perhaps because sulfuric acid is a catalyst in many B-V reactions.

Thanks in particular for the steam distillation information.  I also have a interest in optimized acid hydrolysis conditions as an alternative to the base hydrolysis of the enol ester originally suggested by the dogs.  My obsessive-compulsive traits would also favor steam distillation followed by vacuum fractional distillation.

Abacus favored toluene over DCM for the sodium perborate BV (emulsions?), but there are advantages to having the product in the lower layer in a sep funnel.  Chlorinated hydrocarbons are more difficult to get unadulterated is some locales, though.

I think IndoleAmine also reported unreacted unsaturated ketone and/or unreacted ester from the acid hydrolysis and the close boiling points that made separation difficult.  He then suggested, as did Cyrax, stronger acid hydrolysis, but I think the board or thread ended sometime thereafter before any experimental details were posted.  I think the acid hydrolysis conditions typically used for MD compounds may be too mild for the ester hydrolysis, perhaps a sulfuric hydrolysis as utilized in Organic Syntheses for the hydrolysis of phenylacetoacetonitrile to p2p might work better.

I've also been wondering about the oil that remains after crystallization of the unsaturated ketone.  Bio theorized this may be the "Z" form rather than the "E" cis/trans form of the butenone.  I've wondered if Caro's acid might succeed in BV oxidation the Z-form, which apparently perborate and peracetic are not able to do.

Anyway, thanks again to some of the most senior members for their time.
 
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100 Years of BaeyerñVilliger Oxidations
Michael Renz[a] and Bernard Meunier
Eur. J. Org. Chem. 1999, 737-750

In 1898, Caro detected a nitrobenzene odor in the oxidation of aniline with ammonium persulfate [(NH4)2S2O8] (persulfate stands for the symmetrical peroxodisulfate (S2O8)2-). This product had never been observed before not with that oxidant nor with any other oxidizing agent. So he looked for an impurity in the ammonium persulfate and found out that the addition of ammonium or potassium persulfate to concentrated sulfuric acid produces an oxidant which converts aniline into nitrosobenzene. He concluded that the persulfate was protonated by sulfuric acid and then transformed into the ìNitrosobenzol liefernde Substanzî (nitrosobenzene producing substance; see Table 1 for a correlation between historical, mostly German names and current English ones of peroxide derivatives and peracids). Furthermore, he confirmed that electrolyzed sulfuric acid did not contain any persulfuric acid after two days but the ìNitrosobenzol liefernde Substanzî.

Baeyer and Villiger then reported the first preparation of this new oxidant and explored its composition.
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During their studies on the structure of Caroís reagent, for which they suggested the formula KHSO5 in their second publication, they looked for comparable oxidants and discovered en passant the organic peracids.
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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2011, 06:37:57 AM »
you sound well read

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2011, 02:01:11 AM »
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Abacus favored toluene over DCM for the sodium perborate BV (emulsions?), but there are advantages to having the product in the lower layer in a sep funnel.  Chlorinated hydrocarbons are more difficult to get unadulterated is some locales, though.

This is because you can not use Dichloromethane in any reaction that contains alkali metal cations. They will always form a terrible emulsion
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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 12:45:54 AM »
the problem I have heard of when using caro's acid is that it makes and epoxide of the alkene rather than the enol ester.
I have not tried it so I cant say for sure.

I never knew you could do the hydrolisis with an acid very interesting and worth a try if nothing else.

as for the peracetic it wont run away.

butenone in DCM and bicarbonate are stirred in a flask that is placed in a water bath.
this bath does not even need to be iced down.

drip in peracid and stir for I think it is 5 hours
once reaction is finished sep out DCM layer and back extract the aqua layer a few times with more DCM.

strip of solvent and use this for your hydrolisis.

the oxidation will not run away.

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/peracetic.chromic.html

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 01:39:46 AM »
the problem I have heard of when using caro's acid is that it makes and epoxide of the alkene rather than the enol ester.

Others have also speculated the epoxide may be formed.  I think it was IndoleAmine that thought it might lead to the same place though, epoxide-->glycol-->ketone under Caro's acid or subsequent acid hydrolysis conditions.



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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 11:18:36 PM »
Thanks very much to Java, Lugh and RoidRage for running down my requests in the reference section, greatly appreciated.

The butanone article gives a chloroperbenzoic procedure that would undoubtedly work well for the butenone, but preparation of that stuff is so much more potentially explosive and non-OTC compared to peracetic. . . .

Table 1 of the McKillop-Sanderson article (which is also in Rhodiumís archive as perborate-percarbonate.review.pdf) is probably where bio got the perborate/acetic/1% H2SO4 procedure he adopted for reported 55% molar B-V yields.  Titration experiments show 78-80% of the active oxygen is present as peracetic after 2-3 hours at 40C (compared with 66 and 73% at 2 and 3 hours without sulfuric).  Much faster than the H2O2/acetic preparation of peracetic and perborate compounds probably participate in the reaction too, they apparently have some kind of di-peroxy structure.

Bio may have only used one molar equivalent of perborate based on his comments about only 4 moles of water being present from the perborate tetrahydrate.  McKillop and Tarbinís one perborate/acetic B-V example with an easily oxidized B-V substrate (4-methoxyacetophenone), three molar equivalents of perborate to substrate and no attempt to maximize yields gave an 80% yield when the perborate added to substrate/acetic acid at 50-60C (no sulfuric), so there may possibly be advantages to using excess perborate and/or adding perborate as compared to adding substrate to perborate/acetic/sulfuric.

Bio apparently had similar results with room temperature runs and runs at 50-70 degrees with his modified procedure.

A 55% yield from perborate may have significant safety advantages compared to Caroís acid and perborate may be greener than Chromicís peracetic with DCM or DCE.  McKillop and friends usually removed the glacial acetic with a rotovap and went from there; bio used a toluene extraction in the early days but later mentioned the glacial acetic was easier to recycle with only four moles of water as compared to Boveís procedure, so he may have switched to distillation or may have been distilling after extraction.

Anyway, just my further thoughts after further reading.

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2012, 08:17:32 PM »
Hi there,
I recently came accross a ref about BV oxidation with oxone supported on silica or on wet aluminia. Does anyone have access to online papers to get the full article ? I can provide the ref if someone is interested

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2012, 09:32:58 AM »
Did this thread just fell into the limbs. Anyway this short message to indicate that I noàw have a full collection of articles from JACS - JOC - Synthetic communications & Tetrahedron letters as well as others. So if anyone wants a particular article just PM me :) Glad to give back to the community

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 05:38:24 PM »
I'm interested.. post your papers!

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2012, 12:24:03 PM »
Here is the above mentionned article. For full archives of JOC & others please go to references section

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 04:49:21 AM »
Ok, please post the citations.

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 06:57:48 PM »
citations ? sorry not sure to understand. can you clarify plz

Thx

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 09:39:33 PM »
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citations ? sorry not sure to understand. can you clarify plz

Enkidu thought you had more than one article on the Baeyer-Villiger due to your post:

Did this thread just fell into the limbs. Anyway this short message to indicate that I noàw have a full collection of articles from JACS - JOC - Synthetic communications & Tetrahedron letters as well as others. So if anyone wants a particular article just PM me :) Glad to give back to the community

which could be construed to mean you had many more than one article  ::)  The attached dissertation from Aachen discusses the syntheses of gamma butyrolactones using the Baeyer-Villiger  8)
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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2012, 08:01:34 PM »
So anyone read the silica paper ? I read somewhere that oxone would oxidize double bond. Not a good news i guess

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2012, 02:18:26 AM »
Here's another nice B-V procedure posted by Sedit (and perhaps elsewhere by lugh as I recall).  Borax and hydrogen peroxide, relatively high yielding and relatively OTC.

I couldn't get the link to the .pdf to work in the link below so I'm reattaching here.

http://127.0.0.1/talk/index.php/topic,211.msg1372.html#msg1372

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2012, 06:18:29 AM »
Does anyone have a clue of where the Bio & Twodogs bees from the old times went ? Would be interested to have a bit a talk with these artists ^^

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Re: Baeyer-Villiger with Caro's Acid
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2012, 01:39:53 AM »
Attached is an article using copper (II) chloride to catalyze the benzaldehyde-MEK aldol, originally posted by Twodogs over at Psychonaut before their synthetics forum disappeared.  Best procedure gives 91% yield after 41 hour reaction time and column chromatography on silica gel (they don’t seem to specify the chromatography solvent used, my first guess would be ethyl acetate since they used that for most everything else).

If using the HCl-catalyzed aldol as originally proposed by Twodogs, it has been recommended to use a fume hood and magnetic stirrer.  I’m wondering if the amount of HCl fumes could be cut down by using a closed system leading to a Ymir-type noxious vapor trap.  Specifically, I’m thinking a two neck flask equipped with pressure-equalizing dropping funnel containing hydrochloric acid, which is dripped into magnetically stirred sulfuric acid, the generated HCl gas being led from an outlet in the second neck into a wash bottle, into a trap bottle and finally into a three neck magnetically stirred flask equipped with an inlet tube, thermometer and outlet tube, with the inlet tube introducing the HCl below the surface of the liquid but above the magnetic stirrer.  The outlet tube would take any unabsorbed HCl into a trap bottle before the Ymir noxious vapor trap, basically an inverted Buchner flask equipped with rubber stopper and two bent tubes arranged so that HCl and water flow in, hydrochloric acid flows out.  The main worry would be suckback, although Bio once reported there was no suckback “this time” when running the reaction.  An aspirator could be used to clear the apparatus of fumes when finished, which would hopefully eliminate most fumes.  Any thoughts?

Boeseken & Jacobs, Recl. Trav. Chim. Pays-Bas 55, 786 (1936), reported that the boiling point of the desired phenylacetone enol acetate is 103C/3mm.  Vacuum distillation of the product of a Chromic peracetic B-V or Caro’s acid B-V might get rid of some of the reported side effects such as sleepy dope, an application the old garbage in, garbage out and end results from efforts applied rules.