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Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« on: June 27, 2011, 09:42:02 PM »
The quality of this forum has decreased gradually over the long run, after it had been at its prime.
Today - that is going to change as there is a REAL threat of not being able to post if you post off-topic, useless content or violate the rules.

Also as a note to the moderators; do not give retro-active warnings. A Change in rules leads to a change in behaviour. So only warn members from the posts they make from here on out.

*** ALL moderators can adjust warning levels.. ***

Here are the settings:

Warning level for user watch
The user warning level after which a user watch is put in place - 10 points

Warning level for user muting
The user warning level after which a user cannot post any further -- 60 points

Maximum user warning points per day
This value is the maximum amount of warning points a single moderator can assign to a user in a 24 hour period - 20 points

Warning points to decrement from users every 24 hours
Only applies to users not warned within last 24 hours - It is set to 0 to disable. (Meaning they never decrement)

Users who can see warning status
Determines who can see the warning level of users on the forum. --- ALL users. I think this will have a social aspect as well, and so it is visible to all.


I will likely change these settings - but i figured I'd give you guys a heads up to be on good behaviour... and review the rules..

I would also like to point out that the increments the points are added is 5 points per time.
So two warnings => watch list.
12 warnings => No more posting privileges.


If you don't like this... tell me why and maybe I can change some settings...
« Last Edit: June 27, 2011, 10:20:43 PM by Vesp »
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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2011, 03:00:32 PM »
I think it a fair enough system, it may require some tweaking, but I personally have no problems with, I actually think its clever too!   
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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 05:30:06 AM »
I think there should bee some system in place, where irrespective or warning points issued, one can nevertheless, still contact the admin team, in order, if applicable, to resolve an issue.
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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2011, 05:42:35 AM »
Naturally I want people to contact me or the mods if there is an issue; but if the mods see an issue that is obviously a problem, they ought to warn the member... and this is a good method to do it.

I could also put up karma points, they don't do anything at all; but everyone can add plus or minus points to the members. This might be a good way to make the unwanted feel unwanted, and the unwanted appreciated. But that is really pretty pointless IMO.
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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2011, 07:57:53 AM »


I think perhaps its a good idea, that way, people could see at a glance, if people are being upstanding members of the community or utter cunts. Worked over at the hive (oh those were the days, those were the days, I remember all the shit tha used to fly on the couch...that was some hilarious stuff at times. Were you ever a member Vesp?)
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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 08:30:24 AM »
I don't know if karma is a good thing to enable - I'd like to hear other peoples opinions though, specifically the mods and admins of other forums?
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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2011, 09:57:46 AM »
yeah i think it would be decent.. points for asking good, fair questions, points for giving good answers, i think i have tried to be really helpfull to all the noobs i can, and the few silly things i do or have done get me banned and all the good i have done seems to disappear

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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2011, 10:46:48 AM »
 Hey Vesp I dont quite understand what you mean by this...
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Warning points to decrement from users every 24 hours
Only applies to users not warned within last 24 hours - It is set to 0 to disable. (Meaning they never decrement)
.....Does this mean they ARE set back to zero, after 24 hrs, OR they are NEVER reset?
  Could you, 'clarify' this for me please?

  And as far as "Karma points" are concerned, I think it would be Too Easy, for say, One member, 'persecuting another' or does,
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but everyone can add plus or minus points to the members

 
    Does this mean that "each member, gets ONE vote, "Good, or Bad" for "Each other Member/s" OR can any member vote multiple times, Against, or For, "Another Member?"  If so, it's  NOT so GOOD, and if a members style and experience Increase and become Valued comments and or threads, which at an earllier time, might have "earned the negative Judgement, of others..."
    In which case, it serves the forum and its members,'No benefit'

 On the other hand tho, what Shakey is suggesting Is a quite "sensible"Idea......A bit like how "People Vote" on porn websites, i.e Youporn :o YES I am aware that The Vespiary Is NOT a "Porn Site", BUT;
 
   The similarities  are , that as "they  ARE BOTH, "free sites", promoting their product-"The Forum x or whatever",,... but in a way, "With Rules and voting Options RE; the material on it.....see what I mean? :P

Overall, it sounds pretty good, and knowing you Vesp, you Will make "changes along the way" that will most  likely Bee pretty cool anyway 8)
 
 Btw. I liked the other style emoticons better!11

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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2011, 11:00:08 AM »
.....Does this mean they ARE set back to zero, after 24 hrs, OR they are NEVER reset?
  Could you, 'clarify' this for me please?

They currently NEVER expire - but that might change if it become a big issue.


For the karma points the members can vote on each member only once per hour (or day.. if I set it that way..)
So they cannot be flooded with negative karma.
Again - the karma literally doesn't do anything -- it just gives a heads up to members that "oh hey, this person is disliked and doesn't know his stuff" or "oh this guy is brilliant and everyone loves him"
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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2011, 10:40:37 AM »
My opinion and thoughts .

I do not like any sort of points or karma systems because they dont nesecerily reflect the true "worth" of a member and are to open to abuse . By that i mean that on a site like this there are friends groups and heirarchys within those groups . IF someone / people at the top of those heirarchys doesnt like someone ...... maybe feels threatened by some member who has more intelligence and / or who has a diferent style ...... or even just has a style and they dont ...... and they start to make negative posts openly on the forum and / or in PMs to their friends it can end in mobbing , witch hunts and a negative points score for people who do not deserve it . That can and often does destroy forums or at least give them a VERY bad reputation . I think we all , predjucies aside , dont want that to happen to this site .




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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2011, 01:43:21 PM »
Cool...! thanx Vesp, thats what I wanted to know 8)...

      I'm not sure about,,, the 'Karma Votes",,, :-\  ( I "Just Read TLS's post,After  I had written this post and was just about to Post it.-And I MUST agree extensively with TheLoneStranger's POV --Exactly what the "one post only" concept,   Problems with   'Counters"
                --that red notice comes up telling tou a new post has been made,,,I like it,,lots of benefits, to 'Know first', Before posting,  What will preceed your post,  which Can Be a hassle leading to confusing mix and reading, of thae posts
---- 8)
                             And as you can see, I have Included some ideas that "might be able to give a system like this,, the Benefits it " potentially has" however, as is mentioned, as was forseen, this is what I think Might Possibly Work!! ;D
   
       IMHO they MUST Be,,,
                                         "Limited to; One Vote, Per Member,Per Thread/ Topic/ Post", 8)                        This way,,, NO member can, let's say,, on a weekly basis,, Or maybe,,Even, each time, they come across, "That SAME Post", that they "Laid some Negative Karma upon",....etc  IF ITS,,,,emotive Rationale/Ego Bullshit motivated,Judgement",and,,They "Do It Again and Again!"....Etc etc ::)..........Its like a, Smear Campaign!!+NO GOOD for Anyone, as its "Biased data"...Simple. :)

     You can However, stop this from Happening by,, "ONLY Giving Members,"ONE Opportunity" to Heap Neg Karma on someone, for "Their Own"(Possibly Valid) reasons"
  (And, maybe a way to see "Who complains about whom?")
   That could also help Stop, any "Bullying",,, so to speak.

  Maybe you Could Include, the option for a member to REVERSE their "Decision, from Negative to Positive, If for "Some Reason" that Member, 'Changes their Mind',,,   --- and wants to Reverse their position,( Re; the Negative Karma, they Put Upon someone) HOWEVER,,,
                       Once Again;   
            ONLY Single Choices, "One Vote, ONCE"  I.E>    ANY member,, CAN ONLY ONCE: And,,  "Either, Remove,, OR Reverse,,,"An Earlier Decision they made,, to Judge against another Member...( AND,,Very Possibly,,,"Quite RIGHTLY SO!") for,
                       "in matters of something, that IS, by NECCESSITY "A Science" with Numerous Interesting Contests :o, regarding these;
                                                  "Inviolate Rules of Organic (and Other) Chemistry,,and Nature" 

         After All, isn't what this place IS REALLY  ABOUT......"breaking thru, some New Ground,in a Variety of ways, with a Variety of "things"--????
       
                Which, I, for one,, enjoy, to see a few members having an "Intellectual Tussle" on the Forum, and often things have evolved,( (sometimes with some "potential animosity" generated in the process) which May, OR may not,, Change with time ?".... ::) :-\

           (hence the NEED for Being Able to "Retract" ones "Judgements", on the "post, OR The Poster",,due to "realizing One was Mistaken" for making either Positive OR Negative remarks, I Feel Is Very Important, for we All " make mistakes at times ",,and may later want to "show" the "Other Party Involved", that "we were wrong, or mistaken, in our previous judgements of them...
 (based on "No Need To Explain --- unless They Want to Know?, and you probably, 'owe them that!')
           
                     And  By Our 'Actions',, that "we have come to see/understand, "They, Were,, 'Mistaken',,
  in  The  Awarding ( or Not!)  of   in/appropriate' "Karma Points",, and then at a 'Later stage' wish to "Make them Otherwise"---  :-[       
                     
 BUT;     Members,,   CANNOT: ,, "Reverse A "Good",, awarding,  of  ANY TYPE,    of   "P2P "  "Assessment "Into a Negative One"  ...EVER...--- THIS IS INVIOLABLE!
     So Think Deeply, and Choose CAREFULLY!   BEFORE,, 
                     "judging one of you peers"
 
                    This would (hopefully :P) simply make the Members put At Least Some Thought Into giving a Post,, "The thumbs Up OR the Thumbs Down",,when when looked at rationally,,

          Being too Hasty To vote, can also make problems, again, why the Need To Retract or VARY, a  Negative action, Into, either; A Neutral Situation-where the member can retract "Bad Karma" they ever "Put on someone",,and Reverse it,, ONLY  into a  "Neutral", that is--Deleting the NEG Karma,  or  "replacing the NK with, at least, the same amount Positive Karma " they Had Given,Once Negatively....
    I think it has A "nice poetic Justice" type Ring, to  it, this Idea......you kinda Pay for "being Nasty or Negative" 8)           
         
          Oh and,, :),  It would be GREAT,, IF you COULD Somehow?, create a system where a Member CAN REDEEM themselves, after maybe Writing some Good Posts,--or maybe "Karma points can be 'used' to "Cancel Out some of, One's Sins!!!" ;)

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Re: Warning System Up & Running - Enjoy..
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 06:46:42 AM »
can someone tell me what coding language hypnos is writing in? cant be java code.. Maybe Jibber. ;)