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llamabox

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Recrystalizing MDMA
« on: October 22, 2011, 05:56:33 PM »
I got asked how to do this on another board and I figured one of you folks would have an easy way to explain the process to a newb.

lugh

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Re: Recrystalizing MDMA
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 06:08:58 PM »
There are many known methods, but the chief bee posted one of the most succinct procedures over a decade ago:

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      Pimp Master  posted 02-06-2000 11:39 AM           

      Dissolve in a minimum of boiling IPA, let the solution cool to room temp, then add acetone with stirring until the mixture becomes cloudy, then cool it in the freezer for 12h. Filter


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Re: Recrystalizing MDMA
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2011, 09:05:16 PM »
i would ask first whats your objetive:
A. Purifiying dirty mdma
B.grow big mdma crystalls.
  Lugh advice it´s great,but IPA don´t let grow big crystals.
  If you want to make dirty mdma on white sparkly snow crystalls i recomend first experiment with acetone flashing and then with slow recrystallization on an alcohol/acetone mix.
 
"Acetone flash":dissolve the salt on minimum amount boiling methanol(filter after that if you see solid impurities.Put hotplate on minimum without magnetic stirring  and boil methanol better with thermometer into.The methanolwill  reduce quickly and suddenly temp will climb from aprox 60ªC to 80-90ª...look to liquid surface...on a hurry,the surface will become like"aligator skin"...the salt it´s crystallizing on surface...now without taking off of heat...ad little drops methanol to disolve it again stirring with the thermometer (very few needed) and begind add acetone(will boil with the methanol) until mdma starts snowing from solution on white dust....normally it takes X3-X4 remaining liquid amount....put on freeze for 2-3 hours and filter.....ALLWAYS KEEP THE ACETONE....and let alone to evaporate on a pyrex pan on a room corner,,,always you can get more salt from that...i use this extra-salt to experiment on purification methods.
  You can too,when adding acetone,add only acetone to make solution cloudy without crystalls and put on freezer for better small crystalls after 24 hours like Lugh recomended you.

  For growing big crystals from mdma...take  a look to the "Giant mdma crystalls" thread....basically it´s dissolve each clean mdma salt gram on 1´5 ml almost boling water  and let undisturbed 24-48 hours...better keeping crystallization temp warm on 36-38 with a heat mantel.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2011, 09:10:48 PM by sassa »

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Re: Recrystalizing MDMA
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 05:14:44 PM »
Sorry for the delayed response.
The objective was crystal size. The product being discussed had been pulverized ala mortar and pestle to a fine powder.

He tried to grow but I guess was in to big of a hurry and freeze precip'd it. Ended up with salt sized crystals and minimal loss. I tried to explain the slower growth = bigger crystals but some folks??? who knows.


Thanks for the advise though.

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Re: Recrystalizing MDMA
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 10:31:11 PM »
Looks like some of the advise he is getting is that the big dutch "moon rocks" are just melted mdma then cooled to solidify into something that appears to be crystals.

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Re: Recrystalizing MDMA
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 11:59:00 PM »
you didn´t read the "giant mdma crystalls" thread from the first post like recomended  ;)....if big crystalls it´s your question...the answers are into it....fusing method too...

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Re: Recrystalizing MDMA
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 02:29:12 AM »
crystal buyers are one touchy breed are'nt they?
http://127.0.0.1/talk/index.php/topic,369.0.html
« Last Edit: November 04, 2011, 02:31:11 AM by Vesp »

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Re: Recrystalizing MDMA
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 09:18:20 PM »
"Looks like some of the advise he is getting is that the big dutch "moon rocks" are just melted mdma then cooled to solidify into something that appears to be crystals." if it looks like crystal it is most likely crystal. melting and resolidify does indeed induce a nice crystallization. it works especially well with amphetamine/alkylated amphetamine.
with md type compound, the methylenedioxy ring is quite reactive and does indeed start to react when heated to the m.p.

Sassa's got it right (note the capital S, i only do that for people who deserve it, and that means a lot!), and as i have mentioned in other threads, water crystallization is the way to go without a doubt. HCl hydrates of amphetamine type compounds are very common for many compounds and produce wonderful crystals.