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fishinabottle

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iron filings - coarse vs. fine
« on: January 11, 2012, 06:43:57 AM »
So the description calls for 30 mesh iron. Thats 0,6mm says Wikipedia. Ok. Supplier has coarse and fine iron filings. Doesnt specify what size thus is.

So I searched and found one supplier telling coarse filings being
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IRON FILINGS COARSE, Fe Particle size 1.2-1.7mm MW: 55.85 CAS: 7439-89-6 UN: N/A

Well.

Just another supplier says
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Iron Metal Filings Coarse Particle size (>70%) 0.42-0.85mm 1Kg.

And what do those in the know here say to this question? Ok I will have to contact the company and specificly ask them what size their iron filings are, but isn´t there a at least per thumb rule?

 
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Re: iron filings - coarse vs. fine
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 07:17:47 AM »
I might get the fine mesh, since if you get the coarse mesh and it is too coarse, the reduction will be inordinately slow (I assume that is what the end use is). Either that or I would find a different supplier that specifies the mesh.

OTOH, 1.2 mm is only twice as large as .6 mm, so the reaction may not be that slow, and 'fine' may be too fine to proceed at a safe rate. In conclusion, I don't know. Just find a different supplier that lists the size.
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Re: iron filings - coarse vs. fine
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 12:20:16 AM »
"Fine" & "Coarse" seem pretty arbitrary terms for suppliers of powdered metals. All the powders I've ever purchased have been of specified mesh size based on application.
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Re: iron filings - coarse vs. fine
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 01:07:04 AM »
....i've tried both the iron sawdust from the lathe at a machine shop and regular 60 mesh for the reduction of nitrosyrenes and they both seem to work the same....java
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Re: iron filings - coarse vs. fine
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 01:26:07 PM »
Steel powder from a machine shop is the best source. Use the powder from an bandsaw or other fine you can get. Fillings can be ball milled. Use a sieve for desired coarseness. Worked gread for nitrobenzene reduction.

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Re: iron filings - coarse vs. fine
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2012, 03:47:02 AM »
Oh yes, Java? do tell.

Will Fe/GAA reduce the olefin double bond as well as taking the nitro to the corresponding amine?

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