Quote from: EverlastingReign on February 24, 2012, 03:06:48 AM

I have heard rumors around the net that certain ordinary supermarket variety poppy seeds are viable surplus pharmaceutical Tasmanian Papaver s. strain seeds and thus very potent when grown. I can vouch that they are indeed viable and that they at least grow into opium poppies, but I can't verify that they are pharmaceutical "Tasmanian", although it seems plausible.

According to this, could be false  http://www.poppies.org/faq/introduction/how-potent-are-the-major-culinary-spicerack-varieties-such-as-mccormick/#more

In that case I would be extremely careful about using them in any way shape or form, they are thebaine poppies and they'll need an awful lot of work to utilize for any purpose. Is this disinformation intentional or a joke Jon?

Quote from: jon on February 24, 2012, 01:00:11 AM

when you buy poppy always look for the dark spots that's the latex that has oxidized the more spots you see the better the poppy.
tasmanian is pharmacuetical poppy it has been breed to yeild 20% morphine in the latex so even if you pay more you get more bang for the buck.

They are bred specifically, Papaver Bracteatum Lind (http://eprints.utas.edu.au/12287/1/Raj_Final_Thesis.pdf)  to produce little to no morphine, minimal amounts of codeine and virtually all of the alkaloids are thebaine (and derivatives). Useful as a route to 14- modifications but fucking dangerous to ingest, death is not from the usual opiate-symptoms but due to seizures. The death rate from Tasmanian locals ingesting 'poppy tea' from this new strain is increasing, it will be interesting to see what effect it has on wildlife.

Lol, culinary seeds aren't from thebaine poppies, they are ordinary Papaver somniferum that have been adapted to culinary use and grown for this purpose in the Netherlands. The pharmaceutical companies would not allow specially bred (ie patented) strains of poppy grown exclusively for weird alkaloids like thebaine onto the food market, and the seed companies would not want weird untested hybrids to find their way into their seed preparations. Poppies grown for seed are selected for flavor, aroma, seed volume, etc. They don't just use any old seeds left over from some other industry.

Several ppl on the opium poppies forum have said the fancier 'gourmet' variety of our fav. supermarket brand of poppy seeds are very much suitable for growing for their morphine content.

I used to make heroin thar would kill you by extractin everything into ph4 water then evaporation then extract into hot ipa then acylylate and neutralize ammonia the ammonia would darken but you are left with a precipitate that will kill you I passed out in a cold tub for 6 hours this shit can kill you I've done it before I now how strong it is

Intredasting. Did you filter the plant sludge after extracting with IPA, or just decant, etc.?

you can just decant it it's the neutralization that gets all the plaint oils out and leaves you with a freebase black tar heroin that you dissolve with lemon juice and inject adding salt helps the precipitation I didn't even do a mathchead's worth and it did me that way.

Wait, so in order to work up you freebase the alcohol extract directly, and this precipitates the morphine?