Well, Ab2 thinks we have a winner here. Easy to make, easy to to take, no real consequences, just a lot of bliss. Surprised we hear so little about this wonderful tryptamine.

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Long story short this was just a small taste test. One tiny drop of the oil (hadn't crystallized yet) was placed in a freebase pipe and torch applied. The smoke was god awful worse than DMT IMHO. The lift off was accompanied by a pressure on the chest like someone pushing Ab2 against a wall and a slight breathlessness. "Success!"  All of a sudden the sunlight sparkling off the water takes on a mystical quality, everything is sharper, there is some mild hallucination/distortion for a short while. Ab2 was packing up to leave, but now can't seem to get organized to finish packing, feeling a little clueless, but good. Decide that driving will have to wait a while yet and take the dog for a walk. Everything seem animated, the way the trees move, the layers and layers of trees. Get back an hour or so later and things are beginning to subside, finish packing, get in the car an away we go. Everything seems normal now except when I start passing cars, the dotted line turns into this cool strobe effect, and I feel totally lucid, in the zone, passing is easy, stress free. Ab2 feel very open and expansive. An hour later its all gone, except for the memory.

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Cleaning out a beaker the DET had crystalized in there was a residue around the beaker, so this was dissolved inn some MeOH (1-2mls) and this is added dropwise to a choice pot bud. allowed to dry completely and then rolled into a spliff. Not sure how much was there, at all. The popt didn't improve the taste of the DET one bit, in fact Ab2 couldn't even taste the pot. About half way through the spliff, the water takes on this mystical quality again, not just the sparkling sunlight, but the patterns in the current become sublime. Not real lift off this time and it was a series of small tokes instead of one massive pipe hit. So even soother this way. It was a beautiful spring afternoon. Ab2 had a fire going and it was totally blissed out puttering around the fire. Experienced a very expansive creative frame of mind. Came up with some great solutions to long standing issues, effortlessly. Also there was a shift in Ab2s thinking about some areas of her life that she had been indecisive about and had been stressing her out. Lots of spontaneous laughter. All in all totally blissful, an hour or so later the effects began to taper off, so Ab2 smoked the rest of the joint, and for the 1st 10-15 minutes, there was a slight body load, but not unpleasant, just there. It could best be described as having a tryptamine taste, even though it was not a gustatory sensation, but a mental one. Inside every bit of dust or dirt seemed amplified and the energy of the trip shifted a little towards "critical thinking" which is not usually an aspect of tripping Ab2 enjoys, but this part was short lived, as soon as Ab2 went outside again the bliss returned. Spent another hour enjoying a very peaceful, blissful, insightful frame of mind with no ego threatening confrontational type thinking whatsoever. About an hour after the 2nd smoke, Ab2 packs up and heads home. Listening to Allwoods (Highly reccomended) on the drive home, back in the zone, passing other cars soooo effortlessly, like Ab2 is PART of the pattern. Two hours aftyer the 2nd smoke it has all slipped away. There is a slightly narcotic after effect to this stuff, not bad, but it does make you feel a little insulated.

To summarize
Ab2 could go to work or into a client meeting flying on this stuff and would be able to function just fine. In fact, as someone in a creative industry, this stuff would be very useful for brainstorming sessions, creative sessions, or just about anything else you might be able to imagine.

At this dose, there was not much body load and no negative side effects, no mental meat grinder, and not really any visuals. Throughout the high, it is unmistakable that one is high, but difficult to explain in exactly what way. Ab2 won't say subtle, because the effects are pronounced, but not overwhelming in ANY way. Normally, smoking DMT involves a little fear that must be overcome in order to launch. There is NO fear with DET just bliss. The downside of this being that it would be very easy to abuse.

Nice to have a tryptamine where a small mistake at the scales won't spell catastrophe!

Great insights into DET, being more gentle is something often searched for in a compound because it allows more often explorations that prove useful. May this be a sweet beginning to a long journey.

I know it can be made the same ways as DMT, which exist in easy forms found on rhodium.

@ aniracetam - no big innovation here, via the EtBr route, the only thing done differently was to acetylate the post rxn residue using acetylsalicylic acid instead of using acetic anhydride to remove the unreacted tryptamine and NET. Although the alkylation step took almost a five days to go to completion by TLC, not the 36 hours stated in Tihkal. Everything went so smoothly Ab2 wouldn't look for another route if she was to attempt the synth again. Even though the DIPEA is pain to get a hold off it can be recycled, and can be used for so many other things. The EtBr is no effort to prepare. Wish all synths were this straight forward.

@ dreamOn - Yes, it a real shame this one enjoyed so little popularity. It was a victim of the psychedelic hysteria I suppose. Maybe we can arrange a renaissance. So far Ab2 would say that it is the most predictable tryptamine she has ever tried (at this dose anyways). You can't say that about many tryptamines ... Its well worth the effort to prepare and there are easier ways than the ways posted on Rhodium, check out Tihkal.

@ fat freddy - Yes, Ab2 is really looking forward to trying a much larger oral dose, just waiting for the perfect occaision 

It would be nice if it worked and you have a source of acetaldehyde. My knee jerk reaction though is that cyclization of the imine to a beta carboline would be a competing reaction. If I were to attempt it, I would not preform the shiffs base but do it in situ and hope the Mg can reduce it before it undergoes cyclization or the aldehyde gets reduced to a carboxylic acid.

Attempts to preform an imine with formaldehyde and tryptamine and then reduce it (with various reducing agents) resulted a compound with a melting point well above 100°C 

I wish Ab2 could take all the credit for that one, but there was a discussion about it over at Science maddness a while back.

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A machine translation, that is fairly good if one doesn't care much about grammar.

Zerol and betaine

After noticing a similarity between the chemical structures of alkylbenzenes (ie. Zerol Alkylbenzene Refrigeration Oil [link to purchase removed] ) and diphenylmethane, SWIH decided to try using some Zerol 150 to decarboxylate tryptophan. When about a half gram of tryptophan was heated in about 50 ml of Zerol 150, it remained in powder form until the temperature went over about 250 degrees where the tryptophan changed into a black tar. The mixture was heated for about a half hour to 45 minutes (about a third of the Zerol 150 evaporated), cooled and some toluene was added. It was gassed with HCl gas (from NaCl and H2SO4) to precipitate tryptamine hydrochloride. The precipitate was filtered with suction (Buchner funnel) and dried. It was then mixed with about 3 times its weight of betaine and heated. The temperature was gradually raised over time to about 250 degrees for about 2-3 hours to methylate the tryptamine. Betaine produces trimethylamine when heated to decomposition which should convert the tryptamine to the free base before its methylated. Betaine can be used to methylate primary aromatic amines according to JCS 1942, p48-55 so I thought it might work with other amines such as tryptamine. The product was biotested (smoked) and found to produce a strong intoxication with kinesthetic distortion similar to LSD and made colors look brighter. It was a lot stronger than the product formed in some other experiments using magnesium metal and formaldehyde in methanol to methylate tryptamine.

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Ok, so finally got around to doing some DET orally. It was Friday night at the 2012 Eclipse festival. Ab2 swallowed about 75mgs (thought it was 100mgs but some got stuck in the vial) at 7:30pm, within 45 minutes is was coming on, an internal sort of pressure was felt, nothing alarming, but it was pronounced, lift off is under way. This gave way to a nice euphoric feeling and a desire to move to the music. An hour or so into it Ab2 realizes that some of the DET was still in the vial, so swallowed that too. A friend and Ab2 find a seat at the chill stage and have a great intimate conversation and about this time everything gets these sparkles all over them, almost like a subtle laser show, but very ephemeral. Have noticed this effect on mushrooms before as well, but not as pronounced. Walking around the festival afterwards a friend and Ab2 bump into another friend, but Ab2 can't really get into long winded conversation so much anymore, it seems a crime not to be on the dance floor, so Ab2 excuses herself and heads down to the lunar stage to groove for a while.

When she gets back they ares still talking, Ab2 is in this perfect psychedelic space. Not in any way overwhelming, no mental meat grinder with this stuff at all, no magnified self consciousness, just a beautiful tryptamine glow. There are some subtle insights, and an objective view of most things around her, but again nothing alarming. After chilling by the bonfire and slurping down a few cold ones and catching the Eric Mandala show, Ab2 makes her way back to her tent around 12:30am, smokes a fat one, puts in her ear plugs and drifts off to sleep in about an hour or so. Wakes up the next morning at 7am feeling just GREAT, heads down to the beach for a swim.

Ab2 has also smoked a fair bit of DET in the past month, usually by dissolving some in MeOH and then soaking some pot in the MeOH while it evaporates. The effects are consistently pleasant and euphoric, many Ab2 has shared it with also like it a lot, although most have never heard of the stuff before and it takes some explaining.

There was one exception, when Ab2 smoked a little too much too fast, she got some really hot flashes and felt like she had to sit down, where she starting having crazy rushes and the world dissolved into the sparkles she mentioned a couple paragraphs above. Perspiration was literally pouring off her, then a nice breeze came up and Ab2 was able to focus on how nice the breeze felt until a few minutes later she was able to pull it back together and get on with the evening.

Next oral bioassay will be 125-150mgs

There were two entries in Tihkal at 150mgs, Dream On. One described it as being too much, the other had a difficult time functioning.

At the eclipse festival there were close to 5000 tents. Ab2 was worried if she took too much that she wouldn't be able to find her tent otherwise she would have tried a larger dose. Her friend got lost and needed help finding the tents when it was his turn to go for beer.

Next time Ab2 will dose at 125mgs of the fumarate and have a few 10mg boosters of freebase weighed out and ready to smoke, hopefully approaching the outer limits...

I recall reading that thread atara.