Hello,

I don't know if this is right place but my goal here is harm reduction for heroin users.
This is what I discovered how to prevent OD by titration.

Some of you that are unlucky enough to be forced to buy street stuff of the unknown purity which can wary a lot here is my advice.

9% HCl. You can buy it in most European stores.
Also European heroin is mostly in freebase form unlike that in USA.

So you got the bag and you don't know how strong it is.How much heroin there really is.
Here,it's 5-10% most of the time.
Add ONE SINGLE DROP,add some water,cook,that will make 25-30mg of the freebase into salt (shootable) form.
Draw it trough the filter into the syringe and check one single drop for the taste if you don't have pH meter.
If too acid that means that your stuff is WERY adulterated,or crap.
If it's neutral you can add some more acid and repeat the process until it's acid.
You can easily remove excess acidity with few specks of  Na2CO3 or NaHCO3.Don't add too much,and make sure to cook it
after adding a little bit since too much will freebase the heroin again.

25-30mg is one hell of a dose for novice but most people with tolerance will need more,much more,so simply titrate your dose.

I did the math so you don't need to,and you don't need scale or anything,just titrate it by drops.
I would like to spread this info since I believe it can save lives.

Be safe,
Cheers

I got  that idea so I decided to make it as simple as possible for end users.
I think it's also a very good way to ckeck the purity of your stuff!

Yeah cool ... hey could you run  by fresh the calculations you made to decide '1drop' of Hcl salted out only 25-30mg please

I'm not disputing your figures just curious as to how you went about it

Hey, not trying to be a jackass, but your calculations are wrong ...Considering a ''drop''is 50 microliters  in the metric system according to wikipedia and that you uses a 2.47M Hcl solution, it would yields about 50mg heroin hydrochloride, not 25-30 as you suggests.  I understand you're using the ''drop'' as a rough estimate though  . Isn't it safer to simply weight out the amount of freebase you wants to convert to the salt (ignoring the fact that the product is far from being pure) , then add the HCl solution? That way, you're sure of the dosage you're taking (Well, minus the adulterants). Again, excess acid can be neutralized with sodium carbonate/bicarbonate. I don't think you needs to worry about using too much base to neutralize the acid considering Na2CO3/NaHCO3 aren't strong enough to deprotonate heroin if I'm not mistaken.

hey RR good observations.  This thread has developed unexpectedly with good information.

 Hey carl (not that I doubt you..just curious) how did you come to those molecular conclusions with the citrate?

In fact does anyone know 'why' heroin is usually the Hcl salt? 

Why aren't more drugs made into their citrate salts rather than the Hcl and sulfates?   

 

Some advice from Toadface?

He will only IV if he has something coming out of a sterile vial/amp, always use a micron filter, a sterile rig, needle etc...., swab the IV site with a bit of micron-filtered IPA first also.

If it is ok to post a harm-reduction site here...

www dot exchangesupplies dot org

And yes..the www bit is needed for this site.

Bugger....Toady is going to go shoot up some methoxetamine now. Never has been a user of street H though. He has tried it, a few times, smoked some base while he was inside, but other than that, he just won't touch it. One would almost have to PAY him to use it. Its just too unreliable. But give him a few MS contins.....oh boy..He would rather prep pills, using a micron filter and the associated kit. H just...not his thing.