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playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« on: July 24, 2012, 01:47:31 AM »
so i got about 20 grams and i'm experimenting
i found that 5% lisocaine will negate the cardiotoxic nasties.
word to the wise.
beyond that i'm having fun repsponsibly.
it does'nt last long
i'm thinking about a sandemeyer rxn to replace nh2 with cl
this would improve it's qualities.
matter of fact i snort reasoably and this lidocaine has taken the sting out of the negative heart affectss.
i think would be fun to try with 4-bromo ethyl phenidate
better than sex.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2012, 01:53:54 AM by jon »

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2012, 07:40:05 AM »
the recrystalized stuff from methanol is the best you lose half the rest oils out (needs to be worked up)
to purify
5% lidocaine takes away all the palpitations and jitteryness,
it makes it calm and euphoric

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2012, 08:21:00 PM »
where did this come from jonmon?

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2012, 09:16:02 PM »
You do realise that high plasma levels of local anaesthetics can cause cardiac arrythmias?

Its one of the primary reasons cocaine is so cardiotoxic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_anaesthetic_toxicity#Cardiovascular

And in  general, aromatic amines such as dimethocaine are nasty. Although toady has tried it, and it was indeed pretty enjoyable, for a stimulant.
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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2012, 02:39:04 AM »
well lidocaine seems to take the tachycardic jittery feeling it has to be 5%
or it does the opposite it makes it stronger
of course i had it mixed 60/40 w novocaine
could have  been the procaine it's know to amp up cocaine like drugs
« Last Edit: July 25, 2012, 03:02:56 AM by jon »

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 04:59:12 AM »
yeah  leave it alone it mixes with ethyl phenidate about 10-15%
you know to get that wow!
feeling
and by the time it wears off the ethyl phenidate
75%r/25% s eudysmic zero side effect twice as strong starts kicking in and the high lasts so long it puts you off more, for a while.
that percentage i would'nt go over i would test 10%
and see if you got cardiotocity
and i'm fucking with pure recrystalyzed white as the driven snow every thing
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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 06:40:08 AM »
Toady thinks you are playing with fire jon. The aromatic amine on dimethocaine screams hepatotoxicity to toady. He has tried it, but on finding out the structure, he never bought anymore.
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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 09:51:18 AM »
your sure right about hepatotociity
my urine was off color so i resove the isomers of ethyl phenidate to maximun eudsymic ratio
75r,25s
then just enough to give it the immediate effect 10-15%
that ratio is pretty safe and forget what i said about mixing other local anesthetics not safe.
but the lidocaine did seem to take away a lot of side effects.
heart rate went down and it relaxed me they give it in hospitals for arrythmias.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 10:02:43 AM by jon »

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 01:49:24 AM »
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give it in hospitals

Tells me everything I need to know to stay away from it - the more research I do on health related topics the more aware I am of how US medicine is screwed.  They cause people to eventually wind up with only the option of replacing organs and/or remaining dependent upon pharm's for life.  The treatment's will kill you if the bill don't.

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 11:31:55 AM »
yeah it's not too bad if you mix it with lidocaine that's the same stuff they give to stop arrythmias.
5-10% does the trick and takes away the jittery feeling.
i think i market something like that and call it dynowhite
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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 10:17:47 PM »
Quote from: jon on July 31, 2012, 11:31:55 AM
yeah it's not too bad if you mix it with lidocaine that's the same stuff they give to stop arrythmias.
5-10% does the trick and takes away the jittery feeling.
i think i market something like that and call it dynowhite
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so is the turn anyhow comparable with cocaine?
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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 07:13:32 AM »
Toady could certainly see the similarities between the two. Never had much in the way of rough comedowns either on dimethocaine, but its worth bearing in mind he isn't what one could call abusive when it comes to stimulant use.
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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2012, 12:00:26 AM »
it's like it almost gets you to where you want to be.
i found mixing a little procaine or tetracaine and lidocaine (to stop arrythmias it works it really does)
they synergize and it gets you where you want to be.

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2012, 12:11:32 AM »
really somebody has to do a sandmeyer on that nh2
a halide would boost dopeamine affinity and block all the nasties it might lose it's local anesthetic effect though
i was thinking something like this

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2012, 12:55:03 AM »
hey and even if i can guess you had the idea already, one can after the sandmeyer attach a second halogen on 3 or 5, ideally a 3,4 substition as it is known would be overkill, best as far as i know 3,4 dichloro?
the ortho directing properties of a hydroxyl group on attachment of another substituent are known as well.
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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2012, 11:28:28 AM »
whaf woukd  you have to do to halogenate at position 3 after the sandmeyer rxn?
because of the electron withdrawing properties?

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2012, 02:20:11 PM »
yes, but i think you would have a hard time to selective halogenate only 3, as it seems in my uneducated eyes 5 is of the same preferrance?
you can probably use sodium hypochlorite solution for attachment of a chlorine group, dont know another convenient method for chlorine attachment beside oxone/chloride salt and this is far from being convenient.

edit: THIS sounds discouraging:

Chlorination of p-hydroxybenzoic acid
A monochloro derivative could not readily be isolated.
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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2012, 03:38:32 AM »
the most fun i had with it is injecting about 250 milligrams at a time of this.
the rush is similar to cocaine with your head being inside of a metal drum that's banging and the 15 seconds wondering if your'e going to die or not if you ever inject cocaine you understand how good this rush is.
sounds sick and it is sick but damn it's fun!

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2012, 02:53:41 AM »
you have to mix this with lidocaine or you get that yucky feeling in your chest and stomach it's bad but i did 2-3 grams in a few hours so less is more with this stuff.
i find i do less and i get better effects but that lidocaine knocks out that shitty ohh i'm gonna die feeling.

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Re: playing with larocaine dimethocaine
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2012, 11:57:50 PM »
i also wanted to add the way to do this is mix about 10% lidocaine that will stop the arrythmias.
they even do this in medicine on local anesthetic overdoses.
but the real trick is to control your use.
100 mg every hour or two is the right dose and the dose is the poison here.
because i sat back and shot up 5 grams in one session and boy it was bad
don't do that it will "ring your bell"
which is why i do it but man it just aint worth it
it's beneficial at the correct dose and harmful at higher doses.
what i do would probably kill 3 people but i can handle drugs and massive amounts.
i'm just used to them.
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