Author Topic: *Do NOT try at home*  (Read 264 times)

dream0n

  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 204
*Do NOT try at home*
« on: September 04, 2012, 03:55:43 AM »
The explosive TATP is some 80% as powerful as TNT, and much less stable.  In this case it was mixed with a liquid concrete and magnesium sulfate premix.

Using OTC chemicals TATP was made, but not purified further than the dry filtrate.  5g of TAPT was filtered very carefully into a threaded and capped PVC pipe that was then filled with a small amount of liquid concrete to completely fill the precut tube. The now sealed PVC pipe was then put into a larger metal pipe, but before sealing the metal pipe it was filled with salt water.

This was detonated using a custom designed tele-bluetooth link system and a medium sized fire cracker. The explosion left a fairly large sofa sized hole in the ground.
 
To note, TATP was not under pressure or subject to high temperatures. The metal was steel, and was washed before use - as was the PVC.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2012, 09:35:40 PM by dream0n »
off to bigger and better things - don't worry I will visit from time to time

Sneak

  • Junglist
  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 105
Re: *TAP TAP Boom*
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 08:10:58 AM »
Wow cool ballsy stuff man.

A sofa sized hole!! Fuck me I bet the bang from that was rather entertaining.

The biggest bang we ever made was filling up small and medium air pistol c02 tanks with flash powder and plugging it with a nice long fuse then proceeding to shut this inside a lockable steel dog waste bin...

Lol

If you really want to enjoy a pure, clean product the only way... is to make it yourself...

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take...

Assyl Fartrate

  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 229
Re: *TAP TAP Boom*
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 08:29:11 AM »
You probably realize this, but organic peroxides are not only unstable in that they're easy to accidentally set off, they're so unstable (the bond strengths are only something like 5-10kcal/mol over that available at room temperature) that they can, and have, gone off for no decipherable reason whatsoever.

Obviously a sofa sized hole your chest would pose a problem for your future.

No judgment, just want to be sure you're aware how dangerous that stuff really is. It's a lot better to keep the quantities to a minimum and only use it as an initiator, if at all. Lead azide is a lot safer and not too hard to come by.
Someone Who Is Me

dream0n

  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 204
Re: *TAP TAP Boom*
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 03:02:56 AM »
I won't be conducting any experiments with this, it was created on site where it was destined to be used with safety in mind.
It was more of a test to see what my limits were.
off to bigger and better things - don't worry I will visit from time to time

carl_nnabis

  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 245
Re: *TAP TAP Boom*
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2012, 10:59:15 AM »
Not an offense, but I would for sure more likely see a few dozens of uneducated threads asking for spoonfeed involving methamphetamine, than one about initial explosives, or even worse toxins.

They are not only dangerous for the chemist, also they are a lot more dangerous for the hobby as they are the true reason for chemical bans! Imagine someone discovers this site, he first will think "oh these guys must be dangerous drug chemists" but one additional read trough a thread like this and the opinion one gets changes to something like  "wtf, they are drug chemists AND bomb makers, what a dangerous and harmful bunch of whacky terrorists?!"

Anyway, glad you havent killed yourself and luckily not got injured at least...
Have a look at sciencemadness, theres somewhere a thread with a picture, where a french chemists nearly killed himself and got injured heavily with shrapnells all over his chest and arms, I guess it was the same dangerous stuff there?
"It's like the drug trip I saw when I was on that drug trip!"

Sneak

  • Junglist
  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 105
Re: *TAP TAP Boom*
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 11:04:07 AM »
... Good point.
If you really want to enjoy a pure, clean product the only way... is to make it yourself...

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take...

German

  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 228
Re: *TAP TAP Boom*
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 09:29:32 PM »
I never have nor ever will have an interest in explosives or toxins. I mean why would you anyways? What for god for?

dream0n

  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 204
Re: *TAP TAP Boom*
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 09:34:52 PM »
They are good for nothing, the real salt is in pyrotechnics or getting government contracts.. I've said it before IMO the government is not to be trusted with potential weapons.
off to bigger and better things - don't worry I will visit from time to time

Tsathoggua

  • Autistic sociopath
  • Foundress Queen
  • *****
  • Posts: 662
Re: *Do NOT try at home*
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2012, 10:23:42 PM »
The govt. is not to bee trusted. End of.

As for toxins...actually toxicology, I find quite an interesting subject. And with the sort of things we of this forum, and others like it may or may not bee getting upto...it is as well to understand how the body works, and how it can be made to stop working. Remember Kidston, and MPTP?

A good understanding of toxicology could mean the differene between for instance, reading the half-life and binding data for say, oxymorphazone and either thinking 'nice, lets try some', and realizing its a covalent-binding agonist that will do a neat job of forcing the internalization of the MOR afterwards.

Goes doubly where 'RCs' in the sense of grey-market psychoactive substances are concerned. Toady personally took one look at both methedrone and mephedrone, and thought 'there are going to be tears after this one, and lots of them'

Never touched either of them personally.

And in the lab in general, its important to know what might kill an experimenter who is stupid, careless, or unlucky. And if possible, how to treat a worst case scenario (or second worst, worst of course being buried in several feet of lead, in the middle of nowhere:P)
Nomen mihi Legio est, quia multi sumus

I'm hyperbolic, hypergolic, viral, chiral. So motherfucking twisted my laevo is on the right side.

Sneak

  • Junglist
  • Subordinate Wasp
  • ***
  • Posts: 105
Re: *Do NOT try at home*
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2012, 04:47:40 AM »
The govt. is not to bee trusted. End of.

 ;D
If you really want to enjoy a pure, clean product the only way... is to make it yourself...

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take...

Tsathoggua

  • Autistic sociopath
  • Foundress Queen
  • *****
  • Posts: 662
Re: *Do NOT try at home*
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2012, 02:26:17 AM »
The ONLY thing this particular trusts 'his' govt. to dp:

Rob the people blind to feather their own nests, backup second nests, families and f(r)iends fed and watered, duck houses, bird baths and moats built and maintained, hell, the bastards even bill us for bog roll and toothbrushes.

And the rest either gets wasted on giving muslim dirt freedom to come and sponge, or failing that, for those spongers too crowbegotten pig-shit-lazy to come and sponge in person, send it off as overseas aid, to countries like india, that are not only industrialized, but have a fucking space program!

Or of course, fritter their ill-gotten gains away advertising and generally blowing their own trumpets (and doubtless the speaker of the house while nobody is watching too closely:P)

There are plenty of those cocksuckers that IMO deserve a long stretch inside, its one standard for people who live in this country, another for the terroristy types, the foreign rapists, nonces, robbers and thugs (who don't get deported for fear of breaching their human bloody rights), and yet another the top of political society (at the top only due to the fact that some varieties of turd, float)

And to fuck up the environment, permitting building on green-belt land, at the same time as enforcing a horde of petty 'green' excuses to try and squeeze more out of the population in fees and fines.



Be happy to GIVE each and every last one of the fucking uppity, toffee-nosed, thieving, smegma-guzzling harlotborn dog-kin a damn toothbrush to stop such a pisstake. On the proviso that its had a couple of rusty razorblades melted into the handle, and gets used in a way they really wouldn't like much :P



And then we have outright scum retaining jobs that in the real world they would have been sacked from in a femtosecond. John prescott beeing the one 'Ol Toad has in mind.

Fucked his intern whilst married, kept up an affair, and decked a protester that egged him, came out with a load of horseshit about plans to pile pressure on car drivers to get as many as possible off the road, and then takes a chauffeur-driven twatting jag to travel, according to wikipedia, 250m down the road so his wife's hair doesn't get blown about.
 Never mind charging his council tax to US, the taxpayer, or his annual toilet seat replacement.

He needs his kneecaps drilling with a rusty, blunt forstner bit.
Nomen mihi Legio est, quia multi sumus

I'm hyperbolic, hypergolic, viral, chiral. So motherfucking twisted my laevo is on the right side.