yes i do i have done this successfully in 99% ipa so it will tolerate i know for a fact 1% water but no more.
i told you it's very fickle but once you catch on you'll be batting 100 everytime.
it took me 6 months of trial and error so don't expect overnight sucess.
that's why a lot of people say this does'nt work they try it once or twice and throw up their hands
persistance is the key to sucess.


note this the heat of dissolution and the time you allowed it to saturate probably drove water into the ipa next time cool the generating flask in ice methylamine comes out at -6C so it's a fine line here.
go to an electronics store and get anhydrous ipa (for cleaning electronics) not 99% that will give you some not much but some margin for error.
another thing  i wanted to ask did you warm the sealed vessel to room temp? or just cold temps?
it runs at room temp is why i ask i used to heat it a little if i were using ammonia (not much or you get tar) if you heat the methylamine soup (never heat it period just room temp) you get tarballs. but ammonia is a different ballgame.

also i wanted to comment you don't really need to chill your NaOH solution it can be room temp the generation vessel has to be cooled and next time stop bubbling as soon as vigorous evolution of menh2 stops this will minimize exposure to water because as the methylamine reacts and the NaOH becomes less concetrated heat is evolved 5 hours exposure means you let the water in.

yes works exactly the same except for the 15/1 ratio.
which is no big loss ammonium chloride is cheap as chips.
made mda many a time this way i actually prefer it over mdma in many cases.
just use plenty of ipa in fact a slight excess to hold all that ammonia bung the recieving end with a rag dampened with vinegar.
that should keep odor down.

Hello,

Congratulations!

Do you not have a vacuum pump? or any vacuum fittings for glassware?

If not, I recommend rigging up an aspirator -- super cheap -- you can get em on Amazon. They hook right up to your sink and use the water pressure to create vacuum.

I've been trying to gas 370g of absolute IPA with straight NH4Cl.... I have a system that has no leaks. I can tell because the instant my gas generator becomes endothermic the suck back starts into the trap, and I cannot smell any gas when it's sealed up. However, I have gone through maybe 200g of NH4Cl and even more NaOH, and have  only been able to get the suuuuper cold IPA to pick up 26g... According to the 15:1 15%w/w math needed in this rxn I needed to pick up about 53g... This process seems very wasteful, and I'm quite confused. It seems that CH6ClN goes into solution much more readily. The last time I tried the gassing I used CH5N and it went to nearly full conc within 20 minutes....

The only thing I can think that I've changed since last time is I've added more volume to the gas rig just to be sure I had enough volume in the trap. Jon, according to your write up on p-naut, a bit more volume shouldn't matter. Did you have to use enormous excesses when you gassed NH4Cl?

-Pbinteger

Yo Jon,

How in the hell were you able to keep water out of your IPA solution after dropping RT NaOH soln onto CH5N without a cold condensor and some sieves?

Are you made of magic? Are you a wizard?


-Pbinteger

Hell yea! Fucking Awesome!

That's definitely it.

I haven't had anything that looks like that as of yet.

I will try again though.

Congratulations!

Hello all,

nice to see some success, thanks for the pictures, very illustrative.

However, I couldn't have find any complete writeup of the method. Through reading the forums posts I got some idea, but there's a lack in the last step: how do you mix the iodosafrole with the ammonia or methylamine solution in IPA? Which temperature, how long, and so on? Which concentration is required? If anyone has the complete route description it will be nice.

yes the color of piss is the color of sucess in this game it's all reacted already so your good to go.

yes the color of piss is the color of sucess in this game it's all reacted already so your good to go.

  perfect.

The dilemma is that I'm about to leave town for a couple days and wanted to know if you've ever left your freebase or reacted Iodo in the reaction vessel for extended periods and had problems. I would try to work it up today, but i doubt I'll have time.

Thanks Jon!

those cheap fire extinguishers work fine the ones make out of aluminumium.
just turn it upside down in the bath with the water in it and discharge all the gas then simply unthread it wash it dry it good to go.