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A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« on: November 25, 2012, 09:52:20 PM »
It is said that the concept of "sustainable chemistry" is a relatively new philosophy linked to the ecological movement of the 1990s, yet for clandestine chemists the ever-increasing control measures imposed upon the availability of precursors and common reagents over the last two decades have consequentially led to a raising of awareness with regards to a reduction in waste, use of energy and resources. The main focus of "sustainable clandestine chemistry" isn't so much the prevention of pollution an sich, although this is certainly not unimportant given the stigma the fine art and science of clandestine chemistry carries in the eyes of the general public, but rather the recycling of key intermediates which are often obtained in a riskful manner legally speaking..

It is in this light that I'm happily able to share with you the following anecdotal report, to illustrate this concept of sustainable clandestine chemistry:


A little over three years ago the Henry reaction was performed on a mixture of piperonal and 1-nitropropane (1.5 mol equiv) using 1 mol% methylamine acetate as catalyst in 3-phenylpropan-1-ol as the solvent, slightly acidified with glacial acetic acid. To be more precise a commercially available solution of 15% piperonal in 3-phenylpropan-1-ol was used as is. 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenyl-2-nitrobutene was isolated as a yellow precipitate in moderate yield.. The reddish-orange filtrate was saved and stored for more than 3 years at room temperature, this was about ~100ml.

After this period an equal volume of water was added, the mixture shaken and it was left for 24 hours, during which an additional crop of dirty-looking nitrobutene precipitated. This was filtered and washed with methanol to leave 5.7 grams. The organic phase was washed 3x with equal volumes of water. A saturated solution of bisulfite in 50% methanol (from potassium metabisulfite) was added to the organic phase with stirring and the mixture was stirred for 24 hours and filtered. The orange precipitate was washed with copious amounts of water, several times with methanol and twice with ether. A yellowish crystalline solid was obtained which proved to be the bisulfite addition compound of piperonal, it was dried for several days over CaCl2 and weighed around 10 grams.

The filtrate was again washed 4 times with equal volumes of water and dried over MgSO4, 5 ml of silicon oil was added, and it was distilled in vacuo at the fridge compressor (15mmHg, ~120°C). No forerun was observed and a single fraction consisting of 25 grams of a slightly yellowish-brown tinged oil was obtained, subsequently identified as 3-phenylpropan-1-ol. In the distilling flask was left a black tarry residu which instantly solidified after removing the heat source.
It is perhaps the narcotic. Hyoscine affects certain people very oddly. One cannot be sure. Sometimes, these cases take strange forms. The victim becomes in a sense, 'mediumistic', a vehicle for all the intangible forces in operation around her.

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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 02:31:56 AM »
LOL. That was a good read and a great reminder to never EVER toss anything away until the very end. I am quite surprise that you were able to recover such a significant amount of nitroalkene after such an extended period of time! Did you compute the effective yield of the nitrobutene compound after getting the second crop and considering the recovery of the unreacted piperonal from the bisulfite adduct hydrolysis ?

On a second note, was there any pharmacological motivation for the preparation of 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenyl-2-nitrobutene ?

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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 04:28:39 AM »
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On a second note, was there any pharmacological motivation for the preparation of 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenyl-2-nitrobutene ?

The attached patent may bee enlightening  8)
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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 04:46:54 AM »
Indeed it does, should have checked in PIKHAL before asking ! Many thanks as always lugh.

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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 05:48:15 PM »
LOL. That was a good read and a great reminder to never EVER toss anything away until the very end. I am quite surprise that you were able to recover such a significant amount of nitroalkene after such an extended period of time! Did you compute the effective yield of the nitrobutene compound after getting the second crop and considering the recovery of the unreacted piperonal from the bisulfite adduct hydrolysis ?

I lost my notes from three years ago, but what I remember is that the yield of the precipitated nitroalkene was only moderate, around 50% at most, due to the higher solubility of the nitroalkene in 3-phenylpropan-1-ol. I think the piperonal did react but that the reaction is reversible when the nitroalkene is in solution, the equilibrium being pushed to the left when 1-nitropropane is washed out with water.
It is perhaps the narcotic. Hyoscine affects certain people very oddly. One cannot be sure. Sometimes, these cases take strange forms. The victim becomes in a sense, 'mediumistic', a vehicle for all the intangible forces in operation around her.

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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 09:29:50 PM »
Wow!!! 15mm Hg with a fridge compressor.
Can you explain us if had you made any modification on it?
Now, I'm working in my home made vacuum system.  Two fridge compressor making vacuum alternatively 15 minutes each to a 15L glass bottle.
I don't know how many compressor i saw dead yet! but with this installation this time will be differnet.

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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2012, 12:40:56 AM »
Google "homemade vacuum pump air compressor" and see many more examples of compressor conversion to vacuum pumps.

Also these site...

http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/lasercva.htm | http://toolmonger.com/2011/04/08/make-your-air-compressor-suck/

Crude Refrigeration Compressor Vacuum Pump. h**p://www.randombytes.net/vacuum_pump.html (Avast AV reports malicious IFrame)

« Last Edit: November 28, 2012, 01:47:15 AM by Wizard X »
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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2012, 07:01:37 AM »
Wizard, Toady's antivirus (avast) just blocked an iframe in that last link, the randombytes one citing it as a malicious URL.
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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2012, 04:14:07 PM »
Wow!!! 15mm Hg with a fridge compressor.
Can you explain us if had you made any modification on it?
Now, I'm working in my home made vacuum system.  Two fridge compressor making vacuum alternatively 15 minutes each to a 15L glass bottle.
I don't know how many compressor i saw dead yet! but with this installation this time will be differnet.

I know I was lucky :) Normally I get an average of 30mmHg from a fridge compressor, but this one was salvaged from these large flat types you see in stores. The compressor is also continuously cooled with a strong fan when in operation.

The life span of fridge compressors tend to vary greatly. I also lost a lot already, but I used one for four years, pumping all sorts of corrosives and volatiles through it and it never blinked an eye while doing so. I miss that compressor... :(

I like your idea. You should still cool those compressors with strong fans though.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2012, 04:15:40 PM by Sydenhams chorea »
It is perhaps the narcotic. Hyoscine affects certain people very oddly. One cannot be sure. Sometimes, these cases take strange forms. The victim becomes in a sense, 'mediumistic', a vehicle for all the intangible forces in operation around her.

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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2012, 01:59:25 AM »
Wizard, Toady's antivirus (avast) just blocked an iframe in that last link, the randombytes one citing it as a malicious URL.

Thank Tsathoggua! I have modified my post. This is WHY you should NEVER surf the Internet in Admin account and scripting enabled on your PC.

Surfing the Internet Securely: Guest account, Firefox with NoScript so ALL scripting is disabled like java, active X, iframes.

Further protection: Guest account, Firefox with NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere, Ghostery
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Re: A modest approach to sustainable clandestine chemistry
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2012, 05:41:39 PM »
Wizard -- Tor is also a useful (low config) tool to obfuscate your public IP address..