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noob need help with mdma synthesis.
« on: April 08, 2013, 05:41:52 PM »
I was reffered here by someone from another site because I'm currently confused by some of the info I've found on synthesis. I have no chemistry experience but really want to learn how. Is there a semi easy guide on the whole process or should I take some college classes? I currently have 1 liter of safrole oil just sitting so I want to put it to good use. Thanks in advance for any info/advice.

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Re: noob need help with mdma synthesis.
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 06:38:43 PM »
Read read read my friend. Buy some equipment. Be prepared to get another bottle of safrole cos your probably guna need it. Or two. :) All depends on the effort you put in.

No one is going to spoon feed you easy ways to get your shit.

There are literally hundreds of threads here and elsewhere regarding the subject and indeed many ways to get to your desired product. People prefer different routes.

You need to read up and figure out which is going to be best for you based on how easily you can aquire or make the required reagents and equipment.

Also, it will help you on your journey to try and have as much helpful input on what ever subjects interest you that can be found here. People may be more willing to help you then.

It's guna be a long journey. Buckle up!

Welcome.

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Perhaps you could enlighten us to what it is that is confusing you. Some one might clear it up for you...
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Re: noob need help with mdma synthesis.
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 07:20:55 PM »
We don't spoonfeed my little friend, just read read read!

invertedfailer

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 09:23:10 PM »
A lot of the terms in the "guide" I have are confusing and the processes also are confusing. Can't think of anything specific right now I have it saved on a USB drive. The person who gave me it told me someone with little or no chemistry knowledge such as myself could follow it and do a successful synth. After reading around tho it seems that's not the case. Glad I was reffered to this site. Will be doing plenty of research.

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 09:59:36 PM »
Is it the bright star synth by any chance?

If you cant follow a guide then its very clear you need to go to your local library and read up a few organic chemistry books. Take a look at zubricks laboratory survival guide also for help with alot of setting up. And read a good few thousand pages on this site. If your serious you need to put in some man hours and not ask dumbass questions.
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 10:56:46 PM »
Read Strike's books Total Synthesis I and II.  Then you will understand more than you do now.  And learn as much about the processes in your "guide" so that you don't poison yourself or others, or have a lab mishap that can leave you burned or worse.  If you don't got any experience with synthesis, then maybe mdma shouldn't bee yer starting place.  Way too sharp of a learning curve, and it is not cheap to get the things needed to produce a good product.  Until you read a lot more, i'd give all thoughts of synthesis a rest.  at best, you'll waste  perfectly good sass oil.  At worst, you'll hurt yerself or others with yer lack of knowledge.  Some mistakes you can't take back.


It has been suggested to practice the methods in your "guide", but with cheap ass Star Anise oil before fuckin off a whole liter of sass oil.  and bee sure to discard the final product, but great for refining yer skillz.

Also beware of "guides" as they can bee very misleading.  Just look at almost everything ole Unc Fes put out after the 4th ed.  A whole lotta bullshit with sprinkles of truth, but an almost-working synth still don't work.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 01:09:40 AM »
Amen
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 10:26:18 PM »
Thanks for all the advice. While I am knew and I know I need to do some research, which I have been doing a little, I don't appreciate the rude remark sneak. The only dumb question is the one that's never asked. Anyways thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.

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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 10:28:18 PM »
O ya the guide is Dr.deep woods synthesis guide.

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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 10:45:33 PM »
The only dumb question is the one that's never asked.


Maybe in some circles that is true, but here the dumb question is any one that is not based on research.  You pretty much asked for a recipe.  Not gonna happen here, at least beyond what is already more than available using the search engine. 

I don't feel that Sneak was being rude.  If you have a "guide" (which, btw, I have never heard of the one you listed), then post a reference to this "guide" and ask a specific question pertaining to the synth.  If you copy and paste it, I am sure someone will tell you if it is bullshit or not.  But you gave us no information whatsoever.  How could we help if we wanted to? 
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 11:17:22 PM »
Dont take it the wrong way dude, I wasn't trying to be rude. :)

 There are some good people here who will help you so long as you show you are willing.

But yeah, what's this Dr deep wood synthesis, also raised an eye brow when I read that... Post us some info.  8)
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 11:19:48 PM »
The only dumb question is the one that's never asked. Anyways thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.

Nice quote, I like it.

Just make sure you know how to use Google before you start asking :)
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2013, 01:16:18 AM »
Ya I can copy and paste it. Didn't really think of that. Will do it when I have access to a PC. Only have a tablet for right now.

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2013, 01:20:22 AM »
Dont take it the wrong way dude, I wasn't trying to be rude. :)

 There are some good people here who will help you so long as you show you are willing.

But yeah, what's this Dr deep wood synthesis, also raised an eye brow when I read that... Post us some info.  8)

Its all good sorry for taking it a bit too seriously. Dr deep wood is from silk road. I feel stupid for saying this but I bought the guide since he was advertising even someone with no chemistry knowledge could make MDMA using his guide.

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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2013, 01:41:44 AM »
Same can bee said for TSII by Strike, but after reading Strikes Book(s) you would have had enough understanding of said chemistry.  AND you would have used said knowledge to form a specific and educated question based on what you learned. 
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2013, 02:22:47 AM »
Same can bee said for TSII by Strike, but after reading Strikes Book(s) you would have had enough understanding of said chemistry.  AND you would have used said knowledge to form a specific and educated question based on what you learned.

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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2013, 10:23:27 AM »
curious if this is the bromosaf method being sold on SR...
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2013, 01:23:06 PM »
curious if this is the bromosaf method being sold on SR...


That appears to be the case. I just took a look at his vendor page and this is how he describes it:

"This reaction requires 3 steps. The first step creates bromosafrole from safrole. The second creates iodosafrole from bromosafrole. The third creates MDMA from iodosafrole and methylamine gas."

Here's his list of chemicals/equipment needed (at first glance, it doesn't seem very realistic to me):

"Water aspirator - 40$
2L flask x 3 - 60$
5L flask x 1 - 60$
2L seperatory funnel - 80$
Rubber stoppers, Tubing - cheap
50ml syringe - cheap

1.5L sassafras oil
800g NaBr - 100$
2L Sulfuric Acid - 40$
2L Glacial Acetic Acid - 20$
5 gallons acetone - 20$
1000g NaI - 200$
1kg calcium chloride (damprid) - 5$
1 gallon muratic acid - 15$
4kg Ammonium Chloride - 100$
1 gallon formaldehyde - 60$"

Oh, and he's charging $580 for the "privilege" of reading his guide, haha. What a con artist.

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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2013, 03:12:37 PM »
Holy shit, someone paid $580 for that. I'm in the wrong line of work. Sorry to say it but you got taken invertedfailer. Best thing you can do is pick up a few general chemistry and organic chemistry texts. You can find them all over the web free. Trying to just follow a "recipe" isn't the way to go about this. Without understanding what's going on you can run into a ton of problems that you won't have any idea about how to fix or even figure out what went wrong. Not exactly baking brownies here. Once you get through some basic chem texts everything will make a lot more sense. If you want a few links to some textbooks PM me. These are on the house  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2013, 03:20:13 PM »
Hahaha oh shit! Nearly $600 wtf!
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