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akabori1981

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Re: Beckmann Rearrangement: From Oxime To Amide
« on: May 14, 2013, 02:01:49 AM »
.....learn to read ....this is not a spoon feeding station


hello, is it possible to get the complete writeup for this synthesis per pm?
a guy in the darknet sell this synthesis for 400 dollars and i think this is not nice from him, maybe i get any help here :D
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Re: Re: Beckmann Rearrangement: From Oxime To Amide
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2013, 02:28:40 AM »
you can find two dogs writeup on psychnaut

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Re: Re: Beckmann Rearrangement: From Oxime To Amide
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2013, 03:31:58 AM »
i hate to say this, but this forum its getting weirder and weirder by the day, im very sad to see where this is going!
people selling synth? whats going on? people wanting to get full write ups, like no efort was putted into them? this is getting crazy or its just me?  :-\
people looking for hudson? lots of weird people that honestly, i dont see adding up to anything!!
no more....

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Re: Re: Beckmann Rearrangement: From Oxime To Amide
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 07:35:06 AM »
Yes strange indeed...
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Re: Re: Beckmann Rearrangement: From Oxime To Amide
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013, 08:15:23 AM »
It is fucking up the scene, if you want to buy the aldehyde of this oxime be fast within some months it will be fucked up and controlled deliveries are going to happen..... >:(

akabori1981

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Re: Re: Beckmann Rearrangement: From Oxime To Amide
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2013, 08:50:05 AM »
ok here is his offer from a well known marketplace on the deepweb
 he means that he modifikate two dogs write up to get better yealds and what i think is very strange without a/b at the last step only sodium bisulfid and gasing this give yeald of about 90%
here his offer maybe can anybody here help me out without give him 400 dollars ^^
    Now if ur familiar with the OTHER MDA and MDMA writeups u will agree, this is easier than a Meth recipe... anyways just wanted to post this out there. Get all the Helional u can before it is made illegal.

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This is a steal, 1kg of pure, uncut MDA is worth over:
30,000 wholesale
100,000 at the gram level
Almost a Quarter Million at the individual dose level!


Most labs cut it to around 85% before it even leaves the lab. Later in this guide I will explain exactly why they do this and how this makes your product more desirable! (Give you a hint, starts with moon and ends with rocks)



Recently a new method has been published for the production of MDA, all chemicals required are legal and actually this whole process is legal until the last step where MDA is produced!

This process can and has been done totally in a small apartment bathroom with a standard ceiling ventilation fan! No lab required!

Many people ask how much it will cost the first time and how much is the reoccurring cost for fresh chemicals for the next batch. As a show of good faith I will list everything needed. around 500$ in equipment and 1200$ in chemicals to make a kg of MDA!

Equipment: one time cost ~500$
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5 gallon buckets x3: 10$
5L 24/40 boiling flask: 60$
300mm+ 24/40 condenser: 40$
24/40 distillation adapter set: 50$
lab stand, clamps and other connectors: 40$
Rubber stoppers for 24/40 flask neck + hard opaque tubing: 5$
2L seperatory funnel: 60$
buchner funnel: 40$
drill with paint mixer adapter: 60$
hotplate (1500W+): 70$
water aspirator: 40$ OR rotory vane pump 90$
2 gallon wine glass carboy: 10$

Chemicals: reoccuring cost ~1200$
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5kg of the aldehyd (sources included): 400$
3.5kg hydroxylamine HCL (sources NOT included): 300$
10L methanol/ethanol/IPA: 60$
5kg calcium carbonate (pH up at walmart pool section): 20$
10 gallons xylene : 200$
150g nickel acetate: 30$
3kg NaOH (Lye): 30$
5kg sodium bisulfite: 70$
14 gallons 6% bleach (chlorox): 30$
1 gallon 30% HCl (muratic acid): 20$
3kg calcium chloride (damprid): 20$
500g magnesium sulfate (epsom salts): 10$



Another common question is: do I need chemistry experience to do this? NO! If you can follow basic instructions you can do this process. It is very simple, the hardest part is understanding how to set up reflux (controlled boiling) and distillation (evaporating and condensing a solution).

This process is done in 4 steps:

step 1: can be scaled up infinitely, room temperature reaction with no smells, can be done in a 55 gallon bucket. This process takes about 8 hours, no need to watch it, pretty automatic.

step 2: controlled boil, this is the bottleneck of the reaction. 1kg requires a 5L glass flask. This can be scaled up by using stainless steel containers. A small amount of distillation is required at the end to remove water.

step 3: cold reaction requiring a bucket of ice then raising the reaction to about 60C and letting it cool.

step 4: extraction using xylene and then drying and "gassing" this can be scaled up very large. This step yields incredibly pure MDA crystals and is the only point in which this process is illegal.


The price for this might seem high but wether you are starting up in the buisness or a seasoned veteran it is well worth the cash. The tips in this guide will increase your yield, getting 1% more yield in a 1kg run, this guide pays for itself!

If you have read the information freely avaliable online and think you have it down and dont need this guide let me give you a few tips which are well worth the price tag.

1) In the first step often a compound precipitates which looks totally fine but actually causes the reaction to fail at step 3. Try burning a rice sized piece of your oxime (compound made in step 1) on some foil, if it melts quickly you need my method for step 1. The correct compound will pop and decompose leaving a sharp, acrid step in the air. The information freely online has un-optimized conditions for step one which cause it to fail in many cases.

2) At step 3 you can add sodium bisulfite to precipiate the gunk that will appear after heating. This will allow you to extract with xylene directly from the reaction and precipiate the MDA without having to use work intensive acid/base extraction and cleanup techniques. Actually there is not a single acid/base extraction involved in the process using my method, making it possible to do 1kg batches without a lot of legwork!


Not only do you get knowledge which pays for itself but you get sources for the two hard to get chemicals. You do not need a business to deal with these companies! Everything else can be bought at your hardware store or ebay. Also I provide advice on making equipment, everyone knows how fucking expensive lab equipment is.

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Your concerns and dismay is your own this is a chem forum not a gossip forum .....we don't prove or disprove what you read on the net.....this is not a news service so take it back from wherever you came from ....unless you want to discuss chemistry if you have questions read .....there is lots to read.....so stop with your boy scout questions ....

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Update:
I am working with a supplier that can get you the non-over the counter compounds needed in this synthesis. As my customer you get a substantial discount from him using a codeword.

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Re: Re: Beckmann Rearrangement: From Oxime To Amide
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2013, 08:53:30 AM »
and donĀ“t be scarry about me i know about the problems from the past with when ghetto syntheses was postet on open boards and percussors get banned i need only the info @ pm this helps me a lot
peace


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akabori1981

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Re: Re: Beckmann Rearrangement: From Oxime To Amide
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2013, 09:23:57 AM »
....you really need to learn to read and answer your gossip questions yourself....if i see one more of your dumb posts i will blank every post you make on this IP or any that you use to guise your dumb self



It is fucking up the scene, if you want to buy the aldehyde of this oxime be fast within some months it will be fucked up and controlled deliveries are going to happen..... >:(
i have heard that there was many scammer that heard about this hype and sell fake aldehyd ^^ thats strange too
ok but why you think this aldehyd was banned in near future there is no complete writeup for this in the open web or on any open boards
but maybe you are right i have foud a paper where the authorithys analyse samples of the amide and found tracks about a substance that give them the info that the amide was make with this aldehyd
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