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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #60 on: September 14, 2010, 12:16:12 AM »
@German, there are references for Festers ester reflux. In the patent below example 1 is what you are talking about and comparative example 1 is the reflux but they use a 4 hour reflux instead of Festers 3 hour. The only difference is an increase in yields of 13%+ if done without reflux (adding extra methanol as it distills off).

Method for preparing amino acid esters
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Yes I know, I have followed from way back at the Hive, to SM to ChemicalForums to various blogs(to name a couple :) ). Thanks for clarifying also, but I have to say PLEASE read the patent below carefully!

Process for preparing 1-phenyl-2-aminopropane
http://sharebee.com/8bcadfd2

They use 1-phenyl-2-aminopropanediol-1,3 which has the following constitution;

Using (16.7 grams = 0.1 mole) of 1-phenyl-2-aminopropanediol and (140ml = 1.1 mole) of 58.4% Hydroiodic acid and (6.2 grams = 0.2 atomic wieght)red phosphorous, refluxed at 123-125*C for 24 hours yielded 85.4% 1-phenyl-2-amino-iodopropane with trace amounts of 1-phenyl-2-aminopropane and even smaller amounts of 1-pheny-2-aminopropanol-3.
And there are other examples in that patent that use much more red p and HI!


They actually state this in the patent;

"As to the step for the reductive deiodonation of the compound (1-phenyl-2-amino-3-iodopropane), the reaction is carried out preferably at high temperature to produce the desired compound, 1-phenyl-2-aminopropane. Suitable reductive dehalogenating agents are Raney nickel and lithium aluminium hydride. Although Hydroiodic acid itself maybe effective as the reductive dehalogenating agent, in this case the reaction is too slow to be practical"

And they said that after pushing their reactions out to 35 hours!!! I have refluxed in excess of 48 hours, and adding another 48 would not be the end of the world. But just be aware if you want the complete reduction (dehalogenation) you are going to have to go stronger than 24 hours. Or at least do some serious experimenting like Java stated. Now I know you cant depend solely on one patent, and trust me I can produce more concerning reduction of primary alcohols with HydroIodic acid.

Further studies on the reduction of benzylic acids by hypophosphorous acd/Iodine
http://www.arkat-usa.org/get-file/18759/

The only primary alcohol reduced in the paper above was Cinnamyl alcohol, and except for dimerization the major product was the corresponding iodopropane in shitty 21% yields.


"the material was tested and no OH group showed up in the final analysis and on TLC the run matched a control sample....."

I dont expect their would be an OH group, as stated about 4-5 hours into reflux all the OH's will be displaced with I's...  I also dont imagine TLC would provide a clear reading here either, the retention time of the iodo derivative would be too close to descriminate (double bubble). Depending on what combination of solvents you used as your eluent, would determine how clear the resolution was. But that being said if it was N-methylated and on testing kept you up for 2 days, there is no disputing that. I have been talking about this alot, because I am somewhat concerned that people will take this easier route and will end up taking iodopropanes instead of the good stuff. I sincerely appreciate your input Java, and was hoping to grill you further on Aziridines in this thread.


..........there is no mystery about iodation of the amino alcohol in question, i've shown a picture of the crystals somewhere on this thead...mp was 197, the range is 194-196C .....then try the zinc amonium chloride, thf dehalogenation , don't forget to activate your zinc.....more to know , but then reading is required  .......java
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2010, 11:15:30 PM »
Magnesium should work for reducing any organohalide. It forms the Grignard which is subsequently hydrolysed to the alkane.

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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2010, 11:46:23 PM »
Are you sure about this Atara? Im pretty sure Grignards react to form the alcohol.
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2010, 11:54:09 PM »
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2010, 05:47:33 AM »
Further there is a misconception that Grignards require incredibly dry conditions. This is not quite the case:

http://www.lycaeum.org/rhodium/chemistry/grignard.wet.html

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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2010, 10:40:16 AM »
I kinda got a crazy idea..

What if you condensed one phenylalanine with another one, exhaustively methylated, hydrolyzed, formed the imine of, and then decarboxylated?

Edit: come to think of it, the imine would actually be the iminium, so the decarboxylation may not work, I'm too tired to think right now
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2010, 04:01:19 PM »
Not as crazy as you might think.

The 1st step is known and works either under ridiculous high pressure (22 MPa) and temperatures (220°C; Chemistry Letters, 35(6), 636-637; 2006), with the aid of PCl3 in anhydrous THF (Journal of Mass Spectrometry (2009), 44(8 ), 1188-1194), or simply by refluxing in ethylene glycol (Journal of the Chemical Society, Perkin Transactions 1:  Organic and Bio-Organic Chemistry (1976), (6), 624-627).

The 2nd step confused me. How do you intend to alkylate the tertiary carbon? Can't think of a way to realize this. So maybe it was indeed crazy ;)
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2010, 04:48:44 PM »
i have another crazy idea what if you made an ester of phenylalanine and reduced it to the alinol then reacted that with ethylene chlorohydrin as in any phenmaetrazine synth and cyclized it to the 3 phenyl morpholine with h2so4 like a twist between phenmetrazine and fencafamine.
it would be legal but i don't see the reaction working as well as phemetrazine with it's benzylic stabilized carbocation..
if the details could be worked out you would have a smooth stimulant.
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2010, 09:32:22 PM »
The 2nd step confused me. How do you intend to alkylate the tertiary carbon? Can't think of a way to realize this. So maybe it was indeed crazy ;)

You may not even have to use a strong base like a hydride because the carbanion will be stablized by conjugation with the surrounding moieties. Additionally, both the nitrogen in the amido moiety and the other amido moiety steal electron density from the carbon in question.

Something like this:

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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2010, 10:12:20 PM »
what if you made an ester of phenylalanine and reduced it to the alinol then reacted that with ethylene chlorohydrin and cyclized it to the 3 phenyl morpholine with h2so4 like a twist between phenmetrazine and fencafamine.

You'll actually prepare 3-benzylmorpholine, not phenyl, but I agree that it would be an active stimulant. My files are a mess, but I do remember collecting info about this one some time ago. The only patents that that I have relate to the morpholine analogue of desoxypipradrol. Another interesting molecule would be the morpholine analogue of methylphenidate. IIRC, f&b liked the idea of 3-benzylmorpholine.

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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2010, 11:53:09 AM »
I already thought something along employing the CH-acidity, too. May I ask if this a theory or do you know of succesfully performed experiments with the shown respectively comparable compounds? The question shall not imply disregarding your proposal. But I ask because I have some doubts that the carbanion is actually the stronger nucleophile in comparison to the negatively charged oxygen of the resonance structure. Don't know how far this theory extends towards organic chemistry but what would Pearson's concept of HSAB predict to be the preferred reaction partner?
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2010, 10:07:17 PM »
Just theory. I haven't really done much literature searching about this idea yet.

O- or C-alkylation depends on the electrophile used. If MeI is used,
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The negative charge density is greatest at the oxygen atom (greater electronegativity), and coordination with the sodium cation is stronger there. Because methyl iodide is only a modest electrophile, the SN2 transition state resembles the products more than the reactants. Since the C-alkylation product is thermodynamically more stable than the O-alkylated enol ether, this is reflected in the transition state energies.
http://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/VirtTxtJml/aldket2.htm


Edit: The steric hindrance might be a problem though.. time to look through March's
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2010, 02:41:54 AM »
I'm sure that my 'crazy' scheme has been discussed on the boards before. Can anyone point me to a discussion?

(S)-?-methyl,?-amino acids: a new stereocontrolled synthesis
Daniele Balducci, Ilaria Lazzari, Magda Monari, Fabio Piccinelli and Gianni Porzi
Amino Acids Volume 38, Number 3, 829-837, DOI: 10.1007/s00726-009-0289-9



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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2010, 05:00:36 AM »
http://www.4shared.com/dir/4702233/eefe20b4/a-Alkylation_of_a-Amino_Acids.html

posted by no1uno in the "tools for chemists: decarboxylation" thread. Two main routes are discussed: one through the diketopiperazine intermediate and the other though the alpha imine intermediate.

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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #74 on: June 09, 2011, 12:03:46 AM »
99,99999% that it won't work, but here is an idea:



The phenylalanine is converted with the Hunsdiecker reaction to an intermedier what is unstable as hell, this would be an imine-hydrobromide salt and this would be reacted with a methyl grignard reagent to form amphetamine.

The silver bromide from the Hunsdiecker reaction could be filtered out from the reaction mixture, the only "problem" is that nasty triethylamine hydrobromide. I have no idea how would that react with a grignard.
And also, grignard wouldn't be problem, because grignard reagents could be also prepared in trialkyl amines/not just in ethers.

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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2011, 01:09:16 AM »
The reaction mechanism of the Hunsdiecker reaction is believed to involve organic radical intermediates. The amino, -NH2, group will complicate the Hunsdiecker reaction.

http://www.organic-chemistry.org/namedreactions/hunsdiecker-reaction.shtm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunsdiecker_reaction

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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #76 on: December 20, 2011, 01:44:17 AM »
99,99999% that it won't work, but here is an idea:



The phenylalanine is converted with the Hunsdiecker reaction to an intermedier what is unstable as hell, this would be an imine-hydrobromide salt and this would be reacted with a methyl grignard reagent to form amphetamine.

The silver bromide from the Hunsdiecker reaction could be filtered out from the reaction mixture, the only "problem" is that nasty triethylamine hydrobromide. I have no idea how would that react with a grignard.
And also, grignard wouldn't be problem, because grignard reagents could be also prepared in trialkyl amines/not just in ethers.


....:..too much work just to get the amine group, see this,....

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/meth.phenylacetaldehyde.html
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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #77 on: December 22, 2011, 02:27:11 PM »
hi all, 

thought id share someone else's experiences on trying to reduce the amino alcohol with HI
hope this helps someone  (or keeps them from wasting perfectly good precursors)  :)

all attempts were using h3p03 + I2 as the HI source, on all rxn's the HI was made first then the amino alcohol added

trials included 3x molar excess of HI up to a 6x excess... 

both the amino alcohol freebase and the hydrochloride were run on separate trials with the same results (apart from a more violent initial rxn) ..   
the results~ 1-phenyl-2-amino-3-iodopropane would precipitate out upon cooling the post rxn.

on only two occasions was the desired product achieved in minimal amounts (less than 2% of starting material)  product was verified via mp, marquis reagent,
Madelin reagent and finally bio assay) and that was using a custom made HPSIC/stainless bomb style reactor the contents were refluxed for 24hrs at 160 deg Celsius..

conclusion.. i would have thought using h3po3+I2 instead of RP+I2 would have gotten the job done since success has been had by other ppl with hypo..
not the case tho..   on all attempts his en devours very much coincided with http://ip.com/patent/US3193581.. go figure :P
as its said before a (impractical) longer reflux would be needed to complete the rxn or hypo..

@ java~ on an old SM thread it was posted that n-methyl-d-phenylalaninol phosphate was made.. was that ever tried in a rxn? does methylating the alcohol first
help in this case to complete in a  more timely manor?? (and to a more desirable compound  8)).. 

hope this helps some one :)




   

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Re: Phenylalanine to N Methylamphetamine. Again
« Reply #78 on: March 07, 2012, 12:09:39 PM »
Ok - let's get past fucking HI (which is yet to work AFAIK)

Some of the heavier duty hydrides do work and they are starting to become accessible (through batteries and or modification of lithium from batteries) so we may be in business...

Fuck all forms of N-methylation off, instead form the N-formylphenylalanine - monoacylated no fucking problem

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Preparation of N-Formyl-DI,-phenylalanine

The method was a simplification of that of Fischer and Warburg. DL-Phenylalanine (82.5 g.) was dissolved in 100 cc. of 90% formic acid and boiled gently under reflux for two hours. An additional 100 cc. of formic acid was added and the solution allowed to cool. Formylphenylalanine then crystallized in readily filtrable form and was essentially pure (m.p. 165-166') after atering, washing with a little formic acid and drying in a desiccator over solid sodium hydroxide.

A second pure crop was obtained similarly after concentrating the filtrate by distillation to 75 cc. The yield was 83 g. (87%). Crops obtained by further concentration were slightly colored and contained some free phenylalanine or its formate as shown by failure to dissolve completely in hot
acetone. This material was best combined with similar material from other runs and crystallized from fresh formic acid. Working in this manner, the yield is nearly quantitative.

Crystallization from acetone left the melting point unchanged at 165-166' (uncor.)28 in agreement with reported values

Overby & Ingersoll "The Resolution of Amino Acids. I. Phenylanine and Valine" J. Am. Chem. Soc., 1951, 73 (7), pp 3363–3366 (attached)

Form an ester with the amino acid (might I suggest ethyl N-formylphenylaninate?) and be fucking done with it. Reduce the ester (and the N-formyl group) to give the N-methylphenylalaninol with the hydride of your choice:

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L-N-Methylphenylalaninol (4a)

A 500-mL threeneck round-bottom flask equipped with a magnetic stirbar, reflux condenser, thermometer, and addition funnel was flushed with argon and charged with 250 mL of THF, 19.32 g (100 mmol) of N-formyl-L-phenylalanine(3 a), and 9.10 g (240 "01) of NaBH4 whereupon a vigorous gas evolution was observed. Then, a solution of 25.40 g (100 "01) of I2 in 100 mL of THF was added slowly and dropwise at a temperature of 25-40 OC. After the addition was complete, the flask was heated to reflux overnight. Excess reducing agent was cautiously destroyed by dropwise addition of 30 mL of MeOH at room temperature. The solvents were then removed in vacuo, and the residue was taken up in 100 mL of 20% aqueous KOH and the product extracted three times with 150 mL of MTBE.

After drying (Na2SO4), the extract was evaporated to a pale-yellow oil which was crystallized by the addition of 200 mL of hot n-hexane. Filtration and drying gave 84% colorless crystals which were recrystallized from 20 mL of toluene. Evaporation of both mother liquors and recrystallization of the residue from 5 mL of ethyl acetate yielded a second crop of crystals which was added to the first one to give a total yield of 73 % of 4a as colorless crystals: mp 71-74C (lit.Ig 68 OC); [a]D = +21.8' (1, EtOH) (lit.la +17.1° (2, CHCb)).

Marc J. McKennon, A. I. Meyers, Karlheinz Drauz & Michael Schwarm "A Convenient Reduction of Amino Acids and their Derivatives" J. Org. Chem., 1993, 58 (13), pp 3568–3571 (attached)

The last step is the fancy one - the removal of the aliphatic primary alcohol - now there has been much conjecture about whether methanesulfonyl chloride could be used instead of toluenesulfonyl chloride (to form the mesyl rather than the tosyl) in this procedure. I've finally found a paper where they do precisely that, removing it by reduction with a hydride, but that's all good. The procedures in which the tosylate are used are here and here, while the use of the mesylate for the same job is in the following paper:

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Preparation of the required chiral amine 14 (Scheme II) began with BOC protection of L-DOPA (9), followed by permethylation to give the ester 11. Lithium borohydride reduction yielded the primary alcohol 12, which was treated with methanesulfonyl chloride to provide the
rather unstable mesylate 13. The mesylate converted to urethane 15 upon standing; however, immediate removal of the BOC group followed by hydrogenation of the resulting trifluoroacetate salt gave pure 3,4-dimethoxyamphetamine (14). The proton NMR spectrum of the Mosher amide13 of 14 revealed only a single isomer.

Jonathan D. Bloom, Minu D. Dutia, Bernard D. Johnson, Allan Wissner, Michael G. Burns, Elwood E. Largis, Jo Alene Dolan & Thomas H. Claus, "Disodium (R,R)-5-[2-[[2-(3-chlorophenyl)-2-hydroxyethyl]amino]propyl]-1,3-benzodioxole-2,2-dicarboxylate (CL 316,243). A potent .beta.-adrenergic agonist virtually specific for .beta.3 receptors. A promising antidiabetic and antiobesity agent" J. Med. Chem., 1992, 35 (16), pp 3081–3084 (attached)

Three steps, much more than anyone wants, but feasible none the less, with the added advantage that chirality is carried through. There should be no need for protection/deprotection, the N-formyl group will protect the amine at the start, I can see no obvious need for it at the end (except maybe keeping that Ms crap from attaching to it - if that happens or is likely to happen, how about forming an acetate on the amide and then adding the MsCl?).

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Re: Phenylalanine to amphetamine or N-methylamphetamine
« Reply #79 on: March 08, 2012, 08:08:23 AM »
Perhaps phenylalaninol would dehydrate and hydrolyze in acidic solution to form P2P in the same manner that ephedrine does.