Would it be wise to add an antioxidant such as vitamin C?

Interesting idea about the honey, when you add it to the honey do you heat it or anything? Seems like it would be difficult to get it mix in since I assume the powder would be so light, while the honey is more dense and thick. heating would liquefy it a bit an encourage extraction of the alkaloids into the honey as well. Does heating honey destroy it's properties? seems like it might make the honey more crystalline.

But yeah Vesp,I think that heating idea would be worth a shot.I think you may be right on key.Who is going to try it,and see?

Interesting, and they are the right kind? lucky! Let us know how it goes of course.

I see, well be careful until you identify them, wouldn't be a new thing if they were something else that fried your liver.

Bad method. Grinding the fungus into a powder exposes every tiny bit of it to oxidation. Keep them whole and dry under a fan for 2 days, then put into an airtight container with dessicant ie dry CaCl2 or MgSO4. They can also be dried and put into honey.

Best to suck all the air out like stated add some desiccant to help keep the moisture out and keep it out of the light. Lasts a year easy nice and dry. Honey supposedly can store them indefinitely, they are just a little soggy all the time, not to mention very sweet. But the best luck I have had is with the desiccant and vacuum sealed.

Why not dessicate, then displace the air with a heavy inert gas, the perfluorinated gases used as canned air for computer keyboards/somalian street rats should work, N2, CO2, argon, etc would all do the trick, could always chuck in some sillica gel to keep it comletely dry.

Grinding, as has been said, will increase the surface area open to oxidation and lose potency faster than would happen with whole fruit bodies.

The honey is fun but why bother when you can just dry them and vacume pack them and put them in a fridge ?

You can also use alc . but again why bother when you can just dry them vacume pack them and put them in the fridge ?

" Using this method can keep the active material decently potent for up to 4 years "

It depends a lot on the type of mushroom you have . I`ve seen semilanceata = the most consistently strong mushrooms that were still active after 10 years . In my experience its not worth growing cubensis because of the bulk , they are weak , people often have stomach problems with them and they dont stay potent for a long time ........ in my experience ........ better grow both or either cyanescens ........ indoors or outdoors ...... or just pick them and / or semilanceata .

Another tip ...... get away from confused kiddy sites like shroomery and buy yourself a few good books from real experts ........ at shroomery there are some real experts but the most of whats on that site is beginners crap and people playing post offices = its hard for beginners to sort the wheat from the chaff ideas and " experts " ...... and then they end up useing fish tanks ........


OK i`m a cunt ........ maybe sometime i`ll post some ideas and fotos but will i ever be motified enough to do that ? Hmmmmm dont know ...... will have to wait and see ........

3 more stings stars please ......

Yeah I've also heard that about P. semilanceata- that it keeps it's potency for long periods of time (much longer than other psilocybin mushrooms) even when stored 'casually'. Not sure whether this has to do with something in the fruit bodies themselves or (more likely) the alkaloidal profile consisting of a greater percentage of compounds less prone to oxidation/degradation (psilocin vs. psilocybin, the potentially concurrent activity of baeocystin, etc.).

The experience I can draw from typically involves P. cyansecens & allenii which (at least the cyans) if not stored well will begin to lose potency noticeably after about 3 months, with anecdotal evidence suggesting a loss exceeding 50% after 1 1/2 to 2 years (with some reports of almost total inactivity after 2-4yrs-!).

 The regimen described by Tsat, which is storage under reduced atomosphere, with a heavy inert gas (Argon), with a bit of desiccant (silica gel but any desiccant will do), & in the freezer (out of repetitive direct sunlight & near or below 0° C) seems to provide the most chemically stable environment & has anecdotally allowed dehydrated fruit bodies ('cracker' dry, or dried to 'constant weight' if detectable) of a few different species of psilocybin mushrooms to be bioassayed after 4+ yrs of said storage with only negligible changes in potency & quality of experience. This proved to be true with Ps. cyanescens, which is notable as this species is known to lose it's potency more rapidly than other psilocybin mushrooms. It is also interesting to note that the subjective quality of the different species of mushrooms preserved in this manner seemed to maintain their respective unique nuances, which may suggest that the individual alkaloidal profiles are being maintained, versus for example all of the psilocybin de-esterifying into psilocin in a given species sample.

As for the Shroomery I concur that there is a lot of noise, but there are also some very intelligent & competent researchers & mycologists conducting some fascinating & important work. And while the 'unwashed, plebian' nature of the community as a whole may be distasteful at times, it is precisely because of this broad demographic of Shroomery members that important data & documentation has been gleaned about the range, habitat, & season of a variety of active fungi, including spp. turning up in new locales halfway around the world, the archival of appearances of extremely rare spp., & even the documentation of species entirely new to science. In Sol's opinion, that's worth having to sift through a bit of chafe now & then...