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Snow
« on: September 30, 2009, 12:26:36 AM »
Well my 50 flowering females with beautiful buds on them are in the process of enduring a 1 foot snow storm during 2 consecutive days in the constant 30's. We'll see how well they fair. Considering that the strain is from Nepal I'm thinking they will be fine.

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Re: Snow
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 03:12:13 AM »
How far into bud are they? Have they been damaged badly?

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Re: Snow
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 03:46:53 AM »
They are probably 7 weeks into flowering. I dunno if they are damaged, I'll find out when I go to harvest them in a week... The low just dropped from 36F to 27F. A 27 with a foot of snow may be a little rough with temps never going above 38 for 2 days but again it's a Nepalese strain and I bet July in Nepal is rougher. When I last saw them 2 days ago though boy were they frosted with THC.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 04:18:22 AM »
I would have been nicer had they had a little time to recover, you may have to pull them a little early? As they will mould pretty easily at 7 weeks if they dont dry out quickly. They are obviously indica (8 weeks) a couple of days earlier to save the crop is not bad! As soon as that snow stops I would be checking (and probably pulling). If they were damaged by the snow I would be pulling them for sure, and any that look water logged or even wet (I would be thinking seriously about just taking them all as they are days off anyway). At this stage there is really minimal to no loss pulling them out a couple of days before schedule, so save them while you can.

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Re: Snow
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 11:05:13 PM »
Well there goes a fucking quarter of a million dollars worth of weed down the drain. Spent 5 months hiking up 5,000 vertical feet several times a week caring for the fuckers and then mother nature comes by a week before harvest and ass rapes them. They were fucking gone. They didn't just get a little rough ride they got completely fucking raped. I mean there must have been 70mph winds up there with hail. No fucking chance of salvaging anything whatsoever. I can't tell you how much pain and agony I went through to grow those things. Just to have them taken away a week before harvest. But hey, at least the ski resorts are opening early..... whoopdeefuckingdoo

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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 11:33:09 PM »
An old head told me something that made sence for a change. Perhaps cuz he was a famer and not just a pothead. He said "You will know when its about time to harvest when you see the a ring around the full moon". Sounds good I thought seeing as that ring of light is caused by ice crystals high up and if its up there you can bet it will make its way down here soon enough and frost up all your goodies. In all honesty German you said that they where covered in snow for a bit which means they may have been killed by frost already a bit before this. If this was the case then the act of the snow melting on a dead plant would have just caused it to rott away quickly anyway dumping nitrogen laced water all over decaying material making it a bacteria and funguses paradise..



Hey you can look on the bright side. All the nutriants are now back in the soil and coverted into a great soil for next year.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 11:41:32 PM »
^^^ Well the thing is the snow didn't concern me, but then we got frost too a couple days later. While trying to figure out if I was fucked or not I learned that it is actually not the temperature that is the plants concern. Plants can actually stay in a super-cooled liquid state down to as low as 10F or whatever C (-22?). So it's not neccassarily the cold bursting the plant's cells that is the problem. The problem is frost which can occur at relative moderate temps (depending on how much water vapor is in the air). See frost forms very nasty crystal formations on the plants, like a bunch of needles. So frost is bad but cold weather and snow isn't necessarily so. Based on the weather forecast and constant monitoring of the weather I thought I'd be fine but then we got a couple cold frosts and I think that snow came with pretty brutal winds at the elevation (and there's still a shitload of hail up there too). So I'm not really sure if it was the snowstorm that fucked me or the frosts but either way I'm fucked. At least I don't have to spend a shitload of time pruning, drying, trimming, and curing bud... but then again for $250,000 I wouldn't have mind so much.

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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2009, 12:03:02 AM »
Thats the whole point German. If you got snow like that you can almost bet your ass that you had frost way before that. The ring around the moon ol man was talking about is a sure sign of its comming. If its cold enough to make snow its been cold enough to make frost which is nothing more then fog and dew that froze all over the plant. Unlike snow which will create melt from the heat of the plant creating a little blanket of temperate air frost is all up on it helping to freeze the plant from the inside out creating those little needles you talked about. Combine highly damaged plants with the huge amounts of moister from the melting snow and you have a recipe for melted plants basicly.

They perform an act in cryogenics which prevents this from happening and it is the same process that allows frogs to freeze solid and live without there cells rupturing. Extreamly high levels of glucose will prevent inside of cells from rupturing. How to go about increasing these levels is something I have always wanted to research but never did. If someone could come up with a substance that would prevent freezing while being non toxic and you may just find a way to make the plants survive the winter and pickup where they left off like they should if not for frost.
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Re: Snow
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2009, 02:12:58 AM »
I think it would be very hard, if not nearly impossible to get the plant to suck in something that lowers its freezing point.

You'd probably be better off mixing in some genes with it of plants that can handle it via some A. tumerferase type bacteria and a bunch of sciencey junk... haha
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2009, 02:12:07 AM »
Not really my aunt use to feed hers suger water when I was little but I don't know the concentrations that would be needed to prevent cellular ruptures.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2009, 03:09:37 AM »
BTW something that may be of interest to someone looking to ward off the frost and give a few extra(if not longer) weeks of growing season.

I remember seeing a thing on the discovery channal a while back about a mountin people on an island somewhere that no one else could manage to yeild a good crop because the frost set in really quick and you only had a couple months of growing season.

There cure was as follows. They built rows of mounds with trenches inbetween. The soil was very rich and very dark so it absorbed light nicely. The crops where plated on the mounds while the trenches where full of water. In the day time the sun would heat the pools of water nicely and at night they would emit a blanket of warm fog that would prevent the surrounding frost from touching there crops. Doing this they where able to plant all year around when everyone else in the area could only use a few months out of the year and starved to death.

This is way to much from the hobbiest pott farmer but the principles stay the same. Try to plant them in an area that is frequented with fog. Inbetween two sunexposed streams or lakes sounds like a great way to get the most out of your plants. Perhaps look around in a month or so and find an area where there is plants that should be dead. That would seem like prime realstate to me.
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Re: Snow
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2009, 04:06:36 AM »
man hearing that about the snow is a shame!!! 5000' too!!! well you must have got fit!!!

 i once had a slightly seedy crop that was inaccessible due to flooding,,when i did get there the fuckin cockatoos had gone to town on them and all i had was piles of shredded cabbage on the ground all stinky and composting!!!  :'( eh? what to do? go and get stoned ;D

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