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Inonotuus

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Re: Mescaline/Cactus FAQs
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2011, 09:42:22 AM »
Oerlikon: From the looks of those pics, you have a sample of peruvian torch (Trichocereus peruvianus), which is indeed a mescaline containing species. It could maybe be a T. bridgesii, as they tend to have long spines, but bridgesii the spines also tend to be spaced a little farther apart.

Good ways to help ID Trichocereus species, look at the aureole (where the spines insert into the cactus flesh), this area should be white. Also there is often a slight indentation or knock in the flesh a little below each set of spines (more prominent in san pedros). The ribs are most commonly 5-7 and reasonably rounded (especially in san pedros).

... oh yeah, and Trichocereus species have one central spine surrounded by a ring of smaller spines.
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Re: Mescaline/Cactus FAQs
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2011, 06:36:44 PM »
Thank you,I can't wait to test it!

I don't know how did I menaged to screw last cacti extraction(both legit trichoreus and peyote obtained from the friend).
Used fresh stuff instead of dried one.
Blended,acidified,cooked,filtered as much as I could,foolishly decided not to do non-polar wash while it was acid,basified
added ether...disaster.Ended up with green mess and inseparable emulsion.
I was forced to evaporate all the liquid to get tarry substance that tastes just too damn foul to be ingested
and to make it worse it's an unknown dose.

Have no idea how to purify it since tarry shit dissolves in same solvents as mescaline salt and freebase.
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Re: Mescaline/Cactus FAQs
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2011, 01:49:31 AM »
Hmm, have you tried the d-limonene method? You could likely just redissolve the tar in water, ensure it's basified to the right level (not totally sure on the ideal pH, but probably around pH 12-13?), and wash with 3-5 portions of d-limonene (orange oil). The orange oil can then be washed with a few portions of 5% acetic acid (vinegar).

As you say, the solvent (in this example, orange oil) does pick up much other tarry stuff from the cactus, but when you wash it with the vinegar, mostly just the alkaloids move into the vinegar phase. Theoretically, you just evaporate the vinegar at the end and get relatively pure mescaline acetate. However, when one tried this method out, the vinegar did pick up some slight colour and a little orange goop comes across when you evaporate the vinegar all the way to dryness. It's going to be a fair bit more potent than the tar you have right now, though, potent enough to fit a strong dose into 1 or 2 00 gelcaps.

Not totally sure on what the orange goop is, but it does seem to be active, so it may represent other alkaloids from the plant, or maybe just impure mescaline? A neat trick, if you want to separate pure mescaline from the orange goop: Save all the vinegar washes and evaporate them together over gentle heat, when it is reduced to a pretty low volume it has been observed that crystals of mescaline acetate actually crash out of solution. At this point you can then collect the crystals via filtration and end up with the orange goop in the remaining liquid at the bottom of the flask. Don't throw out the orange goop! It is active on its own, and probably still has some mescaline in it.

Comparison of eating cactus tea/cactus tar versus the orange goop + crystals (if you simply evaporated all the vinegar) to eating the straight crystals (presumably pure mescaline) - cactus tar/tea has the heaviest body load and lasts the longest, the orange goop + crystals still has a fair share of body load but at least a dose fits into a couple gelcaps, and the pure crystals have a very light body load and a lighter mental effect also, more similar to LSD qualitatively. Personally I like cactus tea - it tastes awful, but it often has the strongest psychedelic effect. Lime or other citrus slices are great to suck on, to kill the bitter aftertaste.

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Re: Mescaline/Cactus FAQs
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2012, 12:26:51 AM »
So far, we have tried 300mg of mescaline hcl (myself and she), we take a 100mg dose every 1/2 hour to minimize nausea, until all 300mg has been taken, mescaline is just so beautiful, this weekend we get to try 400mg each of mescaline hcl. At 350mg of mescaline, I had beautiful CEV's (neon colored) of japanese landscapes, dragons, geometrics, gardens. The first part of the mescaline trip feels like being on E for a good hour due to all the extra alkaloids the gassing captures (the sedating alkaloids), all extractions done on tricocereus macrogonus from peru. (got the dried skins years ago).  We have never puked when taking the 100mg capsules this way, it is less of a shock to the system spread out and more easily tolerated.

Several times (over 6 times) we have added a bit of 25i-nbome to our 300mg mescaline dose (we usually take the 400ug of 25i-nbome under tongue for 20 minutes (cyclodextrin complexed) once the last of the mescaline capsules was taken)...this makes the trip seen almost identical to an acid trip, say around equal to 175ug acid trip, amazing great humor, art appreciation, music is out of this world, other-worldly when staring at art or photographs, music with eyes closed takes you to another dimension, memories are easily recalled, great combination, just keep the mescaline dose up there but keep the 25i-nbome dose really low.

We love acid trips of course, but the mescaline + 25i-nbome fully substitutes in place of acid, also look forward to trying 4-aco-dmt soon (the perfect inbetween between LSD and mushrooms, a bit more on the cosmic side, way less anxiety than shrooms, and more euphoric, very visual & spiritual), may even combine it with mescaline eventually.

These 3 psychedelics are great to have on hand at all times: mescaline, 25i-nbome, 4-aco-dmt.
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