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Potential clandestine synthesis of a-demethylated methadone derivative
« on: March 24, 2010, 08:09:09 AM »
I've spent some time lately examining the structures and syntheses of various opioids to see what might be practical in a clandestine setting.  One thing that looked promising was the synthesis of methadone, but a major issue for the home experimenter appears to be the 1-dimethylamino-2-chloropropane precursor.  Even following Rhodium's suggestions, a chem shop would need to be involved at some point.

http://thevespiary:depidyhk@www.thevespiary.org/rhodium/Rhodium/chemistry/methadone.html


Then I realized that I recognized that molecule.. well, almost.  I see no reason why dimethylaminoethanol (DMAE) couldn't be halogenated and used in place of 1-dimethylamine-2-chloropropane.   I came across it during tryptamine research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylethanolamine

DMAE is available as an OTC supplement in the form of its bitartrate salt.  Separation into the freebase may pose some issues as it is soluble in water, but it's likely separable via distillation (prompting the use of carbonate rather than hydroxide for basification since the water will come over first.)  Another solution is to maybe halogenate it first with strong acid while still in salt form.  Then the freebase would likely be insoluble, or could be more easily distilled (I couldn't find solubility data off-hand, but saw mention of a b.p. of 60-61C for 2-(dimethylamino)ethylbromide.)

Something I noticed about the original Methadone molecule is that the a-methyl group we're doing without has some resemblance to amphetamine, which may lend some explanation to why people are generally considered more useful while on Methadone than other opioids.  Then again that's complete speculation.

As for the rest of the synthesis, Grignard reactions are necessary which require a certain level of skill and preparation.  As long as that is a possibility for the experimenter, the synthesis seems reasonably accessible.

Diphenylmethanol can be had from the reaction of benzyl magnesium chloride and benzaldehyde, both of which are available through different means from toluene.
Halogenate and react with sodium cyanide to get diphenylacetonitrile.  NaCN production is dangerous, but again it is doable with OTC reagents.

If anhydrous AlCl3 or AlBr3 is available, then diphenylacetonitrile can also be formed as suggested at the bottom of the original page.

The rest of the precursors and procedures seem rather straightforward.  I'm not sure if there is a common name for a-demethylated methadone.  When I first thought about it I canceled out the "meth"s (even though "meth" in "methadone" most certainly refers to the N-methyl groups) and said "adone" then "Adonis."  So if it doesn't have a name, I'm claiming Adonis for it  :)

Another interesting note is that cyclization and subsequent de-cyclization of the 2-(dimethylamino)ethylbromide won't lead to racemate problems like with 1-dimethylamino-2-chloropropane since you get the same original molecule no matter which way it reopens.

« Last Edit: March 24, 2010, 08:12:30 AM by timecube »

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Re: Potential clandestine synthesis of a-demethylated methadone derivative
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 03:47:24 PM »
I think this is an interesting idea, but it is possible to keep the synthesis of methadone itself OTC. You will need to add more steps though. The separation of dimethylamine from mixed methyl amines is well-known if tedious, and the requisite propylene oxide may be prepared by way of the chlorohydrin. The propylene chlorohydrin may itself be prepared by the interaction of propylene with hypochlorous acid (propylene is an OTC fuel for certain torches) or by passing hydrogen chloride gas through refluxing propylene glycol in acetic acid.

That's a lot of work to add, but the bonus is that you get experience in preparing and using halohydrins and epoxides. These compounds are synthetically versatile and deserve more attention, though also plenty of respect, as they are not good for the human organism.

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Re: Potential clandestine synthesis of a-demethylated methadone derivative
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 07:01:37 PM »
Why not start from 2-propanol and chlorinate at the beta carbon to form 1-chloro-2-propanol. Then dehydrochlorinate to make the epoxide. Then react the propylene oxide in aqueous ammonia to form 1-Amino-2-propanol. After that the Eschweiler-Clarke reaction can be used to make 1-Dimethylamino-2-propanol. Then chlorinate the hydroxy group with SOCl2 or another method to get 1-Dimethylamino-2-chloropropane. Lot steps but OTC.

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Re: Potential clandestine synthesis of a-demethylated methadone derivative
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 11:48:21 PM »
the good dr. janssen did a lot of work with these type of compounds.
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Re: Potential clandestine synthesis of a-demethylated methadone derivative
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2011, 10:25:32 AM »
I'm not sure why I originally thought the a-methyl would be getting in the way when they generally tend to increase potency.  Title compound is normethadone and significantly weaker.
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Re: Potential clandestine synthesis of a-demethylated methadone derivative
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 12:34:23 AM »
alpha or beta branching off the propyl side chain tends to increase potency depending on the compound alpha works better in some cases and in other cases beta branching vise versa.