Author Topic: Met Dr. Shulgin.  (Read 245 times)

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Met Dr. Shulgin.
« on: April 08, 2010, 06:37:36 AM »
I went to the SXSW world premiere of "Dirty Pictures" and the next day, at an after-party get-together, I was able to briefly meet Dr. Shulgin.  I didn't ask him any chemistry questions as he was constantly surrounded by admirers and I didn't want to put him on the spot.  But I did say that it was an honor to meet him.

However, during the Q&A session after the documentary the night before, I managed to get a question in.

I quickly provided some background information on the Rhodium and Hive websites, stating clearly that they have been offline since 2004, and then asked Dr. Shulgin if he had any words of inspiration for those Hive members who are almost certainly still out there, and who for many years have deeply respected him and his craft. 

For whatever reason, Dr. Shulgin could not hear my question very well, but after his assistant clarified it for him, he responded, in a nutshell, and sounding quite sincere, that he was not aware of the existence of any website of organized chemists dedicated to his field of study.  His assistant then politely added that neither he nor Dr. Shulgin has any connection with the Hive or its members.

I have to admit that I was a little crestfallen to receive this news.  The thought occurred that maybe Dr. Shulgin did not recognize the name of the Hive, but this was no doubt wishful thinking.

In any case, I did later on get to speak to Dr. Shulgin's very personable and highly intelligent assistant, and he clarified that Dr. Shulgin and he were currently in the midst of publishing a big new book--due out in about three months, that is much like the Merck Index, very dry, very detailed, with many literature references and experimental data, such as melting and boiling points--for a wide variety of psychoactive compounds.

The documentary, btw, is excellent, and really delves into the heart and history of Dr. Shulgin and his family.

Some of the footage of the event has been posted on YouTube, although, for some strange reason, several good questions, including mine, were edited out of the Q&A, Part 1.  (Maybe they'll be in Part 2.)

Just so you all know, it was a member of the audience that directed me to this website.

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Re: Met Dr. Shulgin.
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2010, 08:40:46 AM »
Hello, and welcome to the board. Thank you for your information concerning Dr. Shulgin's forthcoming book. We've been impatiently waiting for oh so long!

Since Dr. Shulgin once worked for the DEA, I find it hard to believe that he has never heard of the Hive, or of any similar collection of 'chemists.' He probably just wants to keep his distance from that type of activity.

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Re: Met Dr. Shulgin.
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 05:01:58 PM »
Well I only met the good doctor briefly myself, around 6 years ago and he told me then that book was months away from publishing then .... It has been a long wait and I will certainly be buying the 1st ed. AFAIK he was a member of the hive though rarely posted, well according to Rhodium he was anyway but how much can we really know about the online world
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Re: Met Dr. Shulgin.
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 12:20:29 AM »
I have to agree with Enkidu in that im oh so sure he has heard of the Hive and quite possibly been a member but common sense would push him away from public admittance of assisting underground drug cooks in synthesis. He has more at stake then anyone since surely the DEA have had a bittersweet relationship with him from the start.
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Re: Met Dr. Shulgin.
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2010, 01:23:26 PM »
I'm pretty sure Shulgin has heard of the Hive as Strike himself sent him a copy of his book TS II once. It wouldn't be really good for him to publicly associate himself with a clandestine chemistry website, especially since the nationwide publicity it received from that particular NBC Dateline episode.
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Re: Met Dr. Shulgin.
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2010, 10:44:11 PM »
My two labs were going to trial as his lab was busted.  Since I was semi-high profile with university and news and a good but sabotaged religious defense I felt but never had confirmation of any connection.  Wendy Perry did send out an extra copy to the Yankton Prison Camp after the staff likely stole the first copy.  11 years actual. 

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Re: Met Dr. Shulgin.
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 08:32:32 PM »
The release date has been revised to late 2010 for this book on the transform press site. Can't say im surprised. I know what I want for xmas tho
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