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loki · guinea pig

regarding water engines: the amount of energy required to split water into hydrogen and water exactly equals the amount of energy that is released by making them recombine into water under combustion. catalysts get spent in the process, and catalysts are very expensive, and the electrolytic circuits which power the splitting of water are not 100% efficient, so the yield of energy is below 100% of what is put in.

anime · Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:32 pm

loki · guinea pig

yeah... i think hydrogen fuel cells do a lot better if you are starting with electrolytically split water

joe_aldehyde · huxleys associate

jesus, lurker, what is wrong with you...except having an Ö on your keyboard? just because loki and me share the same level of knowledge, it is very childish to assume that we share the same identity.

it's true, though, that we both like to avoid capital letters it seems.

why don't you go read some books or even web pages about tesla, the HAARP project, bearden, meyl, reich, bischof and the likes. it's hard to refuse the facts.

did no one ever question why the AMA burned all of reich's inventions?

nubee · Master Archiver

if your interested in the power available for the "cosmos" via the disintegration of water, you really must check out this ebook,
[url]
https://synthetikal.com/synthforum/viewpost.php?p=4446[/url]

covers the work of John Kelly, with bits from tesla

loki · guinea pig

i never heard of bischof before... better put that on my search to do list

i'm not much into conspiracy theories myself but i do believe that certain groups (plural) are interested in certain things remaining disreputable or preferably erased from the public record. i don't buy the idea that there's one big conspiracy, it's just a conspiracy connected by affinity of ambitions, not neccessarily of mutual knowledge.

loki · guinea pig

keely!!! i used to own that book, i can't remember now where it is (hmm maybe it's just hiding somewhere)

yeah the idea of using cavitation as a source of power has been very little explored, and it looks dead simple to implement.

Ephoton · Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:40 pm

what if one was to use heavy water I have a realy easy otc recipy for this and it
is dirt cheap.

loki · guinea pig

heavy water has to be fractionated in a very fast and powerful centrifuge (hence the name 'heavy')... the water contains deuterium and tritium isotopes of hydrogen

Ephoton · Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:12 pm

yep new that but what about its use as a fuel what is its efficency as such
I llok up the synth later ive got a book from around 1930 that has an easy synth using electrolisis and I have found this book to be a vary reliable source

loki · guinea pig

oh you were being funny right?

Ephoton · Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:38 pm

up to 1932 it was assumed that hydrogen is composed exclusively of atoms of mass approximately 1. two such atoms being associated to form hydrogen moecule.
in 1932 Urey and his collaborators obtained spectroscopic evidence of the existence in ordinary hydrogen of a very small proprtion of paricles of the element double the usual atomic weight. blhaA text Book of InOrganic Chemistry (caps just for primathon)14th ed 1934 Smile

it then goes on to say you can make it out of sodium hydroxide via electrolisis between nickel electrodes.

I dont know much about fuel cells yet but I am willing to learn

loki · guinea pig

to make deuterium from hydrogen you would be have to fuse two hydrogen atoms together, or am i mistaken

lurker4711 · Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:49 pm

For being interested into "border-sciences" for quite some time I have read all this what was mentioned. For Reich I want to say that his works on the mass psychology of fascism is great, but that he made big fun of the americans after they refused him to work as psychatrist. This orgone stuff started out as joke - it got some own dynamics lateron though....

Keely is fraud. Hubbart (all scientology) is fraud. And a bunch of others are fraud. Not to go into detail but thats so often proven - hey come on!

There are some really interesting things out there: The Ranque-Hilsch Wirbelrohr (vortex tube) which almost seems to inhabit Maxwells demon for example.
This UFO project of Schaumeyer (a classic nutcase otherwise) with combined vortex and electrolift.
Tesla´s works too, but he was rather cryptic and he was after transmission of energy - not energy from nowhere, and he was after utilizing the earths electromagnetic field.

Not out there are working overunity engines.
Tachyonen have not been seen working never.
etc.

You will not call me illiterate on this. Call me realistic.

Ephoton · Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:52 pm

nope just electrolisis heavy water deuteurium freezes at 3.8 water at 0
Smile