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Hotplate/Stirrer

Started by CharlieBigpotato, September 17, 2002, 08:58:00 PM

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CharlieBigpotato

As we have the "no sources"-policy here,can somebee give me
"general" reccomendations on a hotplat/stirrer?Any special
features to look for?For example,how big would it have to
bee to bee any good,like if one wanted to do the BrightStar
synth?

Rhodium

An IKAMAG® brand hotplate/stirrer is what you want.

weedar

Of course,I had to check out what these were...
Rhodium,can you reccommend anyone of their models?

I like the one with the picture of a cat on it.. ;D
Edit:Ooops,just discovered the animal-pictures weren't
how they were made..Hope somebee finds the page where they
sell those hotplate w/animals though,it was funny.. :)

Weedar

Me fail English?That's unpossible!

Rhodium

Any IKAMAG is good enough for you, what model you choose is up to your wallet.

pickler

Swim has a 6"x7" hotplate/stirrer that works great. No need in getting a thousand dollar hotplate if you can use a one hundred dollar one. Pm me if you need some more details.

I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin


CharlieBigpotato

That was good advice,I found what I was looking for..

Weedar,I also found that page you found,I think.Very nice
stirrers! ;)

Greets!

scram

Ika is the definately the stirrer with the strongest magnet I've ever seen...Unbelievable. Pay the extra cash to order one of those. I wish I had ripped one off when I had the chance. The only one I've seen that is next to it is the old Cole-Parmer 6x6 stirrers. Don't get Corning. They suck!

algae

Would anyone recommend digital readout?  Advantages/disadvantages?

Osmium

Unnecessary.
The RCT basic/RET basic work very well for all your stirring needs.

I'm not fat just horizontally disproportionate.

noj

The older Corning hotplates are better than the newer ones they sell. The new ones can't even handle 27.5g Al in MeOH. Which means I have 3 new ones that collect dust and 1 old one that has faithfully served me well for 2 years. The old Corning 351 can handle a 5gal bucket or a MM reduction at 6x scale.

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pickler

that's the exact one swim has noj and it does work wonders. Cheap and does the trick.

I went into the business for the money, and the art grew out of it.-Charlie Chaplin


becomezen

but why are hotplate/stirrers listed with a temp range of say 60-300°C ...... can this unit not pull a steady 50°C ? Or is it just not verified to be stable outside the listed temp range ?

Slowly , steadily , strongly , becoming zen.

Rhodium

Exactly, not all of them can be turned on at such a low energy output. But when do you need to set your hotplate temp to below 60°C?

RoundBottom

another combo plate comperable to the older cornings is the thermolyne 1000.  it's major drawback is its height, about twice that of the corning.

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Osmium

> hotplate/stirrers listed with a temp range of say 60-300°C

That is the SURFACE TEMPERATURE of the hot plate! Doesn't mean that you can bring a flask to 300°C!

You can easily set any temp you want, even below 60°C, when you use one of these external switching thermometers and an oil or water bath as a heat sink. I've personally put a 300mm (1 foot) diameter glass crystallising dish with 2 liters of oil and a stir bar in it on top of these stirrers, stuck the temp. probe into the oil, and managed to keep the temp at a steady 40°C. Of course the same can be done with much smaller oil baths, I've done the same with only 100ml oil in an 80mm dish too.
The reason is that the built-in sensor in the heating plate of the stirrer is lagging behind the actual heating taking place by a few seconds due to the mass of the hot plate, so one easily overshoots the desired temperature by a few degrees when no heat sink like a water bath or flask is present. The built-in temp probe and electronics aren't that sensitive either, they can tell the difference between 60°C and 70°C but probably not between 60°C and 62°C.
Just use an oil or water bath in conjunction with a switching thermometer and you can achieve exactly the temperature you want in your oil bath. This of course is only useful when you run reactions at a specific temperature, it's completely irrelevant for distillations!!

I'm not fat just horizontally disproportionate.

nutlin

I've heard mixed opinions concerning the Corning 351. Someone i talked to said theirs couldnt handle and 27.5g Al in MeOH. But mabe theirs was faulty. Anyone else have any imput on the Corning 351?

handsfull2

I have a corning 351 combo and it works great .
Paid a dollar for it at a yard sale.......
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goiterjoe

although not my favorite hotplate/stirrer, I've had one that functioned fine.  the thing would get hot, but the stirrer on it was fairly weak.  On second thought, most reactions I had that involved heavy duty stirring for I would use just a heavy-duty stirrer.

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William_Omblome

I've seen these somewhere but they are really expensive.

wyndowlicker

Barnstead/Thermolyne

Cimarec stirring hotplate 7X7 Swiw hears they work great! :P

Counting starts by candlelight all are dim ,but one is bright.-GD