i've been using this for months.
i'm in chronic pain after a psych doctor cut me off of 8mg/day klonopoison.
i did'nt think i was in a life threatening situation but a week after he high dried me from that stuff i had grand mal seizures went into a coma for 3 days and wound up on dialysis and with searing pain and paralysis in my left leg.
he basically ruined my life.
i'm bedridden all day because of the sciatic nerve crush injury i have shooting pain down the back of my leg, burning pain in my shin and calf and foot all kinds of painful sensations.
we'll thanks to that dr. my situation is now, i live with my mother and have to depend on her for care.
so i use about 10-15 grams as a dose swallow the powder whole it is disgusting.
it's about as good as hydrocodone for pain maybe a little less effective but it allows me to tolerate my situation and move around a bit.
i would highly recommend this for anyone wishing to withdrawl from opiates or in pain.
it does'nt build a tolerance and withdrawl is very mild mainly cold sweats and depression that lasts a few days.
it's not very constipating it's a godsend as my mother won't allow me to see a pain management dr. and goes through all my mail; this was all i was able to talk her into. (a controlling bitch)
you don't get very high from it. if you take enough you get an opiate nod for a few hours.
some mild opiate euphoria and then sedation, if you take enough you can sleep the day away, which is better than constant pain.
very helpful plant.
i give it a thumbs up.

well mine is of a nueropathic nature, my sciatic nerve was crushed as i laid in a coma on the floor for 3 days.
i'm still on klonopin because if i stop taking it i suffer violent seizures.
i think it was negligent on the part of my psychiatrist to arbitrarily discontinue me from such a high dose with no advice whatsoever.
ie. he did'nt tell me that i'd possibly die.
he may as well hit me with a 2 by 4 over the head.
thanks for the suggestion on codiene is dihydrocodeine any better?

Jon, if you are having RSD (reflex sympathetic dystrophy) or any other similar nerve-firing issue, you should check out the emerging practice of using ketamine-induced comas. Apparently such treatments literally "reset" the nerves and "cure" the problem. People have literally walked away completely symptom free from this.

The last I read, its only being performed in Europe and elsewhere (i.e. not in the US). Give it a thought! It could change your life!

As far as Kratom goes, its a very, very interesting compound. It has both an opiate and stimulating effect, and the predominance of one effect over the other occurs at different dosages.

Well I am speakiung fr myself nd I said pretty much the same exact thing you just said. Codiene is more powerful. Scientist say its weak but I do not agree.

Dihydrocodeine is far better than codeine, I am prescribed it, and its far better at pain relief, withdrawals are real nasty though.

Was on  morphine IV and IM the last few days in hospital thanks to a bastard of an abscess that made my jaw swell to the size of a tennis ball.

Oddly, I get higher on half a grams worth of codeine syrup than the equal dose of DHC, but pain relief, dihydrocodeine is better.

Never had hydrocodone, it does not exist in british medical practise, I would have to actually prepare it myself if I were ever to try it.

Usually standard procedure is to give codeine phosphate, usually in the form of co-codamol 30-500s, or tramadol, which is vile stuff, the noradrenergic effects make me prone to autistic sensory problems worsening, I keep myself in artificially induced mild adrenal failure to prevent that, and tramadol makes it a lot worse.

Codeine is the usual thing you will get for even severe pain, morphine if you are in hospital or a cancer patient, I was pretty damn lucky to get DHC, as I have one of those doctors who is of the old school breed that sadly are almost extinct these days who doesn't insist on being addicted to textbook practise, but actually will try alternatives if needs be, would have given me co-dydramol, but actually agreed to give me it without the APAP when I said I don't take paracetamol because it appears in me to be completely inactive.

And I objected to him about taking something added to the DHC that A-has zero effect even when administered via IV line, and B-makes otherwise miniscule, foul tasting pills into gigantic fuckoff horsepills that taste even worse.

i've had bad experiences with tramadol too, it made me feel weird as hell like i didn't want to be touched and it was a weird kind of high that wasn't enjoyable at all.

i've tried a few different strains for kratom and it can be a lifesaver for w/d's but have never used it for pain.  i've heard that bali is the best for pain but it is also the weakest.  bali used to be my favorite but as i upped the dose i started getting vertigo the day after and read it was fairly common with some people and higher doses.  they call it "bali sensitivity" but i never had any problem until after 6 months of use all of a sudden with a new order, from then on out the same problem.  bali is the weakest i've had but also the least stimulating, in fact its not stimulating at all to me.  malaysian green is my current favorite, it's a little stimulating and seems to get my stomach going which none of the other strains do.  indo red was a little too stimulating for my preference and i didn't like the buzz as much as malaysian.  i've had that Maeng Da Kratom too, it was ok, not overly stimulating like indo.  i've never tried thai.

thai has the most alkaloids of any strain common sense high alkaloid content stronger stuff.

Definitively active stuff. I almost choked trying to get the stuff down, but It relieved pain and was something I would be interested in trying again.

poppies are'nt so easily grown in the tropics/subtropics they overheat get water looged and die.

Heat is not problem, poppies LOVE heat, they grow most successfully in the hot and dry Afghanistan
and tropical south-eastern Asia.

i don't know how they grow them over there but all i can say is i grew opium poppies one year and i planted them a little too late in the spring because they were growing nicely then the temperature shot up and hit 90-something degrees, i swear it looked like somebody stomped them to the ground.... the sun/heat did it is what i was told by everyone when i was trying to figure out what went wrong.  by "everyone" i mean a board of successful poppy growers that get big harvests