What is the focus and purposes of occupy*  in a simple sentence?

  And a little more from the world of Anonymous...........I hope no one is offended !!! 

   26/2/2011                                  Anonymous Hackers Threaten to Take Down Tea Party Websites
          by Bill Posted

   The Anonymous group known for hacking and taking down numerous websites including Paypal and Bank of America for blocking donation payments to the Wikileak owner Assange, the church of Scientology and their recent attack on the Westborro "God Hates Fags" church has now focused its attention on the Tea Party by posting this message to the Tea Party Patriots message board.


    Attention Tea Party

    We, the collective super-consciousness known as ANONYMOUS - the Voice of Free Speech & the Advocate of the People - have long heard you issue your venomous statements of hatred, and we have witnessed your flagrant and absurd displays of inimitable bigotry,, racism and intolerant fanaticism. We have always regarded you and your ilk as an assembly of graceless sociopaths and maniacal chauvinists & religious zealots, however benign, who act out for the sake of attention & in the name of a political movement.

    Being such aggressive proponents for the Freedom of Speech & Freedom of Information as we are, we have hitherto allowed you to continue preaching your benighted gospel of hatred and your theatrical exhibitions of, not only your fascist views, but your utter lack of Christ-like attributes.

    Your demonstrations and your unrelenting cascade of disparaging slurs, unfounded judgments, and prejudicial innuendos, which apparently apply to every individual numbered amongst the race of Man - except for yourselves - has frequently crossed the line which separates Freedom of Speech from deliberately utilizing the same tactics and methods of intimidation and mental & emotional abuse that have been previously exploited and employed by tyrants and dictators, fascists and terrorist organizations throughout history.

    ANONYMOUS cannot abide this behavior any longer. The time for us to be idle spectators in your inhumane treatment of fellow Man has reached its apex, and we shall now be moved to action. Thus, we give you a warning: Cease & desist your protest campaign in the year 2011, return to your homes & close your public Web sites. Should you ignore this warning, you will meet with the vicious retaliatory arm of ANONYMOUS: We will target your public Websites, and the propaganda & detestable doctrine that you promote will be eradicated; the damage incurred will be irreversible, and neither your institution nor your activists will ever be able to fully recover. It is in your best interest to comply now, while the option to do so is still being offered, because we will not relent until you cease the conduction & promotion of all your bigoted operations & doctrines.

    The warning has been given. What happens from here shall be determined by you.

Anonymous hackers have in the past completely shut down websites, copied member lists and re-posted names, addresses, phone numbers, billing and other personal information and released sensitive emails of their targets.

If they do hack the Tea Party Express and Tea Party Patriots websites I can just imagine what kind of damage they can do.

NOTE: this information was available on the Tea Party Patriot message board but has since been removed...LOL f1

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

What does the 1% do with the money? Where is it they put it?
I tend to hate the Occupy and Anonymous movement.
They don't appear to understand or value individual liberties.

A good example is what you stated a minute ago:

Yesterday, thanks to a Reddit user whose parents belong to the group, the Tea Party's use of the slogan was revealed to the world at large. From that point it was only a matter of time until 4Chan itself found out and soon, as the saying goes, the internet was there.

The Oregon Tea Party Facebook page was quickly subjected to an onslaught of image macros, desus, flames and herp derps, along with at least one message explaining why it was being smacked around. Within a couple of hours, the Tea Party had run up the white flag with a message reading, "Anonymous: We appreciate your resources and admire your tactics. You have taught us more than you know. As requested, we are no longer using the 'anonymous' quote."

The Oregon Tea Party's Facebook page is now gone completely and its Ning page,

They are oppressing the speech and free sharing of ideas when it comes to the Oregon Tea party, among many other groups.
They are practically a cyber mafia, and do not help anyone but just run around and bully. They are  *mostly* just script kiddies.  If anon were against drug use, do you think they would allow this site to exist?

Additionally, who cares who holds all of the wealth? Would you rather the poor be poorer if the difference between the rich and the poor were less?

The rich put their money in banks; the banks send out loans and this liberates individuals to pursue dreams they might not be able to pursue otherwise. It isn't like the rich hide their money under ground. They invest it on the stock market, and pretty much put it back into the economy.

 Being upset that the rich because their are poor people is insane.

 

So long as the gap is smaller, they would rather have the poor poorer. One does not create wealth and opportunity that way. One does not create a property-owning democracy that way.

-- Margaret Thatcher



Now, don't get me wrong. I don't think the system is perfect by any means - but a cyber mafia, and collectivist thinking is worthless. We need to all care less about other people and more about ourselves. We need to focus on the importance of freedom. Freedom includes economic and social freedom.

Obviously their are problems with the banks, and big business - but it isn't the rich holding most of the wealth. It is the govermnent holding a monopoly on force and power
The government literally forces you to pay taxes, which very literally makes you pay big business bailouts, and fight wars you do not agree with, and keep and make policies that harm yourself all for the "greater good"

Ep. 1 "This is John Galt speaking"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00xStn_jXKo

Milton Friedman: Why soaking the rich won't work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi-D24oCa10&feature=related

Milton Friedman - Redistribution of Wealth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRpEV2tmYz4&feature=related

The Most Persistent Economic Fallacy of All Time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrg1CArkuNc&feature=related

I am a classical liberal, which is essentially a libertarian - just so you know. I hate all forms of collectivism that is forced upon individuals by government, mob rule, or anything else.

You should watch some more things by Milton Friedman and John Stossel. I dare you
Also read up on a bit of F. A. Hayek

"Fear the Boom and Bust" a Hayek vs. Keynes Rap Anthem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk

Fight of the Century: Keynes vs. Hayek Round Two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc&feature=relmfu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

Occupy seems to be really enthusiastic, and I admire that - but they don't seem to know much of what they want, or even understand how an economy really works. IFF they do not support maximum freedom, I do not support them. If Anonymous does not support maximum freedom, I do not support them.

Republic vs Democracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXuGIpsdE0

The Oregon Tea Party's Facebook page is now gone completely and its Ning page,
where the use of the quote was confirmed as legitimate, has been limited to members-only access. The campaign was clearly a win and entertaining as always, but does anyone else find it disturbing that the Tea Party, which bills itself as a legitimate voice of conservative political dissent in the United States, "admires" the tactics of Anonymous?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.220464-Anonymou...

Nope, keep in mine the Tea party is a movement that is naming itself after a mob rule that behaved exactly like Anonymous is acting now.

Over run, over power, destroy what you disagree with, and get the hell out,.... wasn't that was the first tea party was all about in the first place?


I like the idea of Anonymous, not so much for what they do but for what they represent. They represent that it is possible for a group of people to over run various powerful organizations such as governments and for a brief instance bring them to there knees. Its a matter of time before this extends beyond the internet and it has already begun to do so with the occupy movement. Anonymous is not a group... it is not a person.... it is a collective of people with a common will on an internet forum such as this.

They have shown that if we had enough balls to ban together and attempt to do it that we could rather quickly change the status quo of the governments take on drugs though protest and guerrilla warfare. The war does not have to be violent but just as shown with the occupy movement the government will not allow change to happen without violence. They will in no way allow protesters to overstay there welcome without busting out with the rubber bullets normally in a week or less. Anything longer and the movement may really pick up steam so they strive to crush it at all cost. These people do not have enough faith in there movement to stand there and take the rubber bullets, but mark my words.... there will sooner or later come a time when "the 99%" fire back!

Then what? What happens when people realize that peaceful protest is always rewarded with violence and it takes decades or more of peaceful protest to change anything. It will happen at the end of our lifetimes and a "hippy" movement will gain steam again however I do not feel they will be tree huggers this time, they will be trigger pullers and hostage takers.

 thanx vesp,, and sedit, you said it!!! Anonymous IS filled with "script kiddies", freaks, geeks and weirdos, but then again so are Intel,Apple,Google, AND Capitol Hill....Julian Assuange IS a "participant" in Anonymous, but I like to think of them as an "Open Source Ideas" soft/wetware development forum, where the Best, most viable and useful code is Used, yet tempered with "principals and empathy" for the World, and the people on it.

   The "Powers that Be" ARE scared of these folks, and RIGHTLY SO,, IMO, "if you want to act like a cunt,,I'll FUCK ya" 

  and I think the same goes for many people!!! You can eat or drink cash, Vesp, and as the" Fabulous Furry Freak Bros" used to say..."Drugs are better, in times of NO money, than money is, in times of NO drugs"

  I will answer your questions in detail, after I have slept some,, but "If NOTHING changes, nothing CHANGES", and IMHO, we dont HAVE the luxury of "time up our sleeves",, shit, the US Govt spend MORE on "non life supporting" activities, like weapons and war, than they DO, on Health Care!!! WTF?
     
       I dont wish to fight, I'm a lover alas, when the Rich people PAY the Powerful people to DO things to support them, so they can make more $'s, so that they can pay more $'s...what a VICIOUS circle, where SO few benefit!

  When I come back, I MUST help you understand the FICTION of the "Fractional Reserve" banking system..it IS the "backbone" of most Western banks, and the REASON for ALL the fiscal Drama around the world...
   to quote a famous American economist named John Kenneth Gallbraith, describing the "Military Industrial Machine" the US has become, since then end of the 2nd world war,  "It's highly sophisticated stupidity"

There IS 1 thing I MUST say, "if you are reading this, I'd bet, you (like me) ARE one of the !% (facts later)

  One thing which brings me hope, is IMHO, humans who have enough to eat, somewhere to sleep, and someone to talk to,,ARE INCLINED to altruism, for it enhances their social lives, which in turn, improves the lives of their closest relatives,
 hence why we live in cities. That we have "feelings" and can empathize with other people, is where we excel,,as this guy says, fresh from the Oakland Occupation.....

   

corncobuk
8 Hours ago   I back these protestors completely. They do not want billions but a livable wage where they can give their families a decent life but are stopped from doing so by the greed of corporations. There is enough in the world for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed

   And,,

I’m not surprised by the protests; there are a lot of angry Americans.
Talking to my American friends and ex-colleagues, they feel that the middle class is under attack. The fear of lay-offs (With loss of health care etc…) is palpable!
The turnout at American elections is abysmal as a lot of people see that both political parties represent whoever pays them the most

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expatdestiny7635
         absolutely right, those who are demonstrating with the occupy movement are not all unemployed, they are fed up Americans who love their country and want it to be a better place for all, not just for the few. These are people who are disgusted with the government and the elite, not with the country.

 Laters all f1 
 

"Every generation needs a new revolution." - Thomas Jefferson

It seems to be the case that it is natural for governments to grow in size and power. Governments create the rules and allocate power and money, and government employees tend to have very good wages, benefits and job security so what happens when a large percent of a population are employed by the government?

This website claims that 70% of Egyptians were employed by the government:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/stockholm-syndrome-nile-70-egypts-employed-work-government
And this website claims that government workers received a 15% pay hike before/during the protests:
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/109694/20110207/egypt.htm

So you have a group of people, whether it's 70% in Egypt or 30% in the United States, who are comfortable and happy, with power, wealth, and/or security. And of course they do not want change, they want to continue on with the status quo and so that is how they vote.

And like Thomas Jefferson said, "A revolution is needed every generation," to keep governments in check and return some power back to those people who are not "in" the government or directly benefiting from the government. This is one reason why I support Anonymous and Wikileaks, because I don't have a government job and I want governments (worldwide) to be less powerful, and to use the power that they do have to ensure freedom for all. And I assume that most of the protesters and supporters of the Occupy movement feel the same.

Right I agree with a lot of what you just said DopeBee
but the thing is, or least what I have been seeing, is that occupy , and to some extent anonymous are asking the government to have more power, aren't they? They are all very left leaning in the modern sense that they want the government to provide education, reallocate wealth from the 1% to the 99% and so on.. Business isn't the problem it is government currupting the business.

Why hack away at the branches of evil (companies who get bailouts, get in bed with government, etc) when you can attack the evil at its roots (the government)?

it isn't corporations or business; it is the governments involvement with business. Always has been, always will be.
I don't think many people understand that.

And as for government jobs - it is broken windows fallacy 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNjAielBBG0

I'll go with it being a clusterfuck. They both corrupt each other. But only one of them has a monopoly on force. You can always stop using a corporations services and products, but you can't choose to stop paying your taxes as they will put you in a cage.

but the thing is, or least what I have been seeing, is that occupy , and to some extent anonymous are asking the government to have more power, aren't they? They are all very left leaning in the modern sense that they want the government to provide education, reallocate wealth from the 1% to the 99% and so on.

Yes but they want things that will help the poor become wealthier (education, financial aid, health care). The rich don't want those things because they don't need them. If someone has $1,000,000 in the bank, they earn $30,000 per year from just the interest from the bank. The banks generate income from the interest on loans to people who don't have money so in essence the millionaire is earning money from the poor by doing nothing but having money.

It takes money to make money, the more money you have the easier it becomes to make more. When people can hardly afford to eat or keep a roof over their heads it's a very difficult thing to even contemplate how to accumulate wealth. The brain only has so many resources and stress can really diminish those resources fast.

Milton Friedman, you will all sooner or later love to hate him. Im pretty sure he would make the 99% at the protest cry at one point or another.

The Most Persistent Economic Fallacy of All Time

Milton Friedman - Redistribution of Wealth

Milton Friedman - Socialism is Force


If the middle class wages get to low then they will be unable to invest or obtain start up capital for larger fish to invest in. This is what we are seeing after the ARMs went into effect and bankrupted a large percentage of the American population. Everyday hard working home owners decided to take out loans on there houses, which by the way where paid off meaning there not slackers, then the banks jacked up the rates faster then inflation allowed causing stability to fall all over America. This all happened in about 10 years. I have seen many stable people including my family fall victim to it before they put a stop to it. By then the banks had done there damage and the part that kind of gets me heated a bit is after they where finished essentially taking every last bit of wealth a large percentage of the middle class America they suddenly needed bailouts. 

Where could have all the money have gone? Wealth don't vanish, it gets relabeled as one number or another but exactly how can the capital tied up in the millions of homes taken over by the banks just vanish into thin air? It by all means must be tied up in millions of empty homes or have been embezzled.. Who's going to buy the houses the banks own now that they bankrupted everyone but the dirt poor? I feel we are in deep shit.

The bailout money should have been used to buy the bankrupted houses and gave them to the poor, that would at one time been the only solution to the mess the banks created. But the bankers opted to give themselves 10million dollar bonuses and call it a day without looking back. There's no way around it, we as a country where robbed.