Whats the easiest way to get diethylamine in the united states?

I'm not sure if its heavily watched or not, but ordering from alfa doesn't sound appealing. 

I'm really surprised, why can't diethylamine be made from ethyl chloride + ammonia? Those two are both really easy to make otc... oh well.

I'm really surprised, why can't diethylamine be made from ethyl chloride + ammonia? Those two are both really easy to make otc... oh well.

You seem to be under the assumpsion that for no reason it will stop at just two Ethyl groups on ammonia. Ethylchloride is easy to make? Have you ever done so?

Thank you =)

Yes, its about buying. I was curious the easiest way to buy a chemical thats not so commonly used without the feds up my ass. Any tips?

Buying diethylamine would be a jail sentance waiting to happen if im not mistaken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deet

That is all you will get from me

"I've looked up and down for distilling DEET."

Transition state activity coefficients in the acid-catalyzed hydrolysis of amides

http://article.pubs.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/RPAS/rpv?hm=HInit&afpf=v77-424.pdf&journal=cjc&volume=55

Quote from hxxp://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/0002red.pdf

Reregistration Eligibility Decision (RED); DEET

"The registrant submitted a hydrolysis
study that satisfied this data requirement (MRID 40192701). That study
demonstrated that DEET is stable to hydrolysis in solutions initially buffered
to pH 5, 7, and 9. It can be concluded that DEET will be stable to hydrolysis
at pH levels found in the environment."

Haha I have that in my kitchen
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Caution: Eye Irritant
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"A pH of 5,7, or 9? Hm how long do you think it would take to distill?"

Just to clarify, that quote was saying at those pH's (5,7 or 9) DEET was stable, and hydrolysis did NOT take place. I was using it as an example of why you would have to go well beyond pH 10 for hydrolysis to occur at a reasonable rate. But after reading the paper I posted above, I would be going with H2SO4 instead of NaOH.

This table was taken from the paper I referenced in a post above;

Transition state activity coefficients in the acid-catalyzed hydrolysis of amides



Looking at that table, at the analogous compound N,N-Diethylbenzamide, whereas DEET would have the systematic nomenclature = N,N-Diethyl-3-methylbenzamide, an extra methyl group at locant 3 on the ring. For N,N-Diethylbenzamide the greatest rate contstant is achieved @ 70.9*C in about 25% Sulfuric acid.

"But what I've got is I need a 25% solution of Sulfuric acid in the DEET, refluxing at 70C, for a distillation to occur?"

Right! but hydrolysis will occur!!!

The hydrolysis of DEET would produce diethylamine and 3-methyl-benzoic acid. Further degradation of diethylamine to ethylamine is unlikely in the above reaction for the times you will be using.