Jon, its got to be the music, turn it down a little, and see if thats the obvious connection, Id hardly imagine a minimal 25 doses could have anything to do with a headache, just out of curiosity, and pm if youd prefer, but each dose would be in the amount of How many grams/mg.

I know, or assume that my initial comments could very well contain an edge or sarcasm, but in all honesty Frank doesn't know that much about methylenedioxy type isopropylamines, a little on the unmethylated amine version, but not so much on ectacy itself, allthough seeing the number 25 did promote the feeling of excess, anyway Jon, heres hoping your headache goes quick,

I know of someone who suffered hemorrhagic stroke from one mdma pill!! Couple of grams of MDA or MDMA or meth creates an awful lot of pressure, be careful! Large doses for extended periods will create some vein stretching blood pressure. I would imagine Jon must have scorched his serotonin receptors over the years or dulled them with the op8's, as 200mg (2 points of a gram) sends me to wonderland for a day or two. If I took anything close to what Dr.Gonzo over here takes I would be layed up in hospital with activated charcoal being pumped up my nose.

swim can agree with naf1 200mg sends swim dancing all night. And on swims accidental Over Dose the pressure was there. Even on smaller dosed swim can
feel the release.

MDA is more toxic than MDMA and that is well documented just dont drink coffee with it(lol), an abstract of a paper at mdma.net;

Caffeine promotes hyperthermia and serotonergic loss following co-administration of the substituted amphetamines, MDMA ("Ecstasy") and MDA ("Love")
by
McNamara R, Kerans A, O'neill B, Harkin A.
Department of Pharmacology,
National University of Ireland,
Galway, Ireland.
Neuropharmacology. 2005 Sep 23;

ABSTRACT

    The present study determined the effect of caffeine co-administration on the core body temperature response and long-term serotonin (5-HT) loss induced by methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA; "Ecstasy") and its metabolite methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA; "Love") to rats. In group-housed animals, caffeine (10mg/kg) enhanced the acute toxicity of MDMA (15mg/kg) and MDA (7.5mg/kg), resulting in an exaggerated hyperthermic response (+2 degrees C for 5h following MDMA and +1.5 degrees C for 3h following MDA) when compared to MDMA (+1 degrees C for 3h) and MDA (+1 degrees C for 1h) alone. Co-administration of caffeine with MDMA or MDA was also associated with increased lethality. To reduce the risk of lethality, doses of MDMA and MDA were reduced in further experiments and the animals were housed individually. To examine the effects of repeated administration, animals received MDMA (10mg/kg) or MDA (5mg/kg) with or without caffeine (10mg/kg) twice daily for 4 consecutive days. MDMA and MDA alone induced hypothermia (fall of 1 to 2 degrees C) over the 4 treatment days. Co-administration of caffeine with MDMA or MDA resulted in hyperthermia (increase of up to 2.5 degrees C) following acute administration compared to animals treated with caffeine or MDMA/MDA alone. This hyperthermic response to caffeine and MDMA was not observed with repeated administration, unlike caffeine + MDA, where hyperthermia was obtained over the 4day treatment period. In addition, 4weeks after the last treatment, co-administration of caffeine with MDA (but not MDMA) induced a reduction in 5-HT and 5-hydroxyindole acetic acid (5-HIAA) concentrations in frontal cortex (to 61% and 58% of control, respectively), hippocampus (48% and 60%), striatum (79% and 64%) and amygdala (63% and 37%). However, when caffeine (10mg/kg) and MDMA (2.5mg/kg) were co-administered four times daily for 2days to group-housed animals, both hyperthermia and hippocampal 5-HT loss were observed (reduced to 68% of control). Neither MDMA nor MDA alone induced a significant reduction in regional 5-HT or 5-HIAA concentrations following repeated administration. In conclusion, caffeine promotes the acute and long-term toxicity associated with MDMA and MDA. This is a serious drug interaction, which could have important acute and long-term health consequences for recreational drug users.

http://www.mdma.net/toxicity/coffee.html

good point i thought it was harmless though at least that's what my dealer said.

ask your dealer if ecstacy is right for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHG8cjI5B-w


cool!!!! it's moby!!!1

matter of fact jon took well over 4 grams today this stuff is harmless.
that's mdma

thanks naf1.. the coffee was a mistake swim can tell ya that.

Just looking out for ya brother I don't wanna see someone head down the wrong path when they have potential to be much greater then that.

Hey Jon! Welcome back.. Hadn't seen you around .. glad to see you are A-ok!

cc

they just let me out of the psych ward (again)

i love moby!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enNE2oSTCKs&feature=related

artistic genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVoSqBxBKY