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Sektor

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Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:49 am
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shit, sorry boutt the source comment!
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Sektor

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Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:30 am
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about the shellite though, is callite the same thing? and does swim have to freeze the callite to precipitate the fb xtals? swim thinks that the *camp fuel* is not aggresive enough, theres probs along the line as the yield is incredibly low, like 100mgs from 2grams!! wtf?

Edited by hAzzBEEn - sources.
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loki
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:59 am
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sounds more likely to do with pH. it takes a hell of a lot more base to basify it because it is so loaded with salt (salts buffer the pH of solutions). swim used about 100ml of 50/50 lye solution to get it to work.
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Sektor

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Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:02 am
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shit, was that for a box of 48x60?
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loki
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:13 am
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oh um, 150ml of brine was used, pillstock was 36x120
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:14 am
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https://synthetikal.com/synthforum/viewpost.php?p=8091 << this is the report
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hAzzBEEn

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Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:53 pm
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wrote:
about the shellite though, is callite the same thing? ...swim thinks that the *camp fuel* is not aggresive enough...

Not sure about the shellite/callite. SWIh isn't from oz, just heard that ozbees were using shellite with success.

About the CAMP FUEL, the VM&P Naptha is chosen for its laziness, not it's aggressiveness. Freebase pfed is sparingly soluable in cold Naptha, but it is quite soluable in hot Naptha. There have been some that claimed success using camp fuel, and some problems reported, too.

NOTE: Sources include *brand names*, *store names*, etc. Don't post any "sources" means don't name something that could really tip of the LE to regulate something. No harm done.
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Sektor

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Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:11 am
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fuck sorry! didnt realise, swim will be more careful from now on, seriously
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loki
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Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:51 am
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yeah, swim definitely can verify the utility of the australian light (low bp) mineral spirits commonly available at supermarkets.
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p2e3r4f5e6c7t8

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Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:26 am
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Swim reacons Colmens works better than shelite
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loki
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Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:58 am
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i think shellite may possibly more solvent than c****s fuel, i don't know... i haven't really seen anything which suggests that napthas are any different from each other. they do vary from season to season, they are basically the residual fractions from isolating specific pure fractions, so the exact composition is somewhat determined by the amount of the special fractions that are sold and possibly it varies somewhat from one crude oil source to another.
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NS29

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Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:32 pm
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Hilfe! SWIM over here in germany has a hard time finding an adequate substitute for vm&p naphta Crying or Very sad
What is so special about vm&p? The low boiling point?
I guess thinners with xylene in it are not really suitable.
SWIM found some petrolether here at a chem supplier with a bp of 40-70°c but that isn't otc.
Any german dreamers in here who could point (pm) SWIMS cat to a feasible otc source?
Verdammt.. even toluol is easier to find here Wink
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loki
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Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:32 pm
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international fuel names

now if you can't find it from that you don't deserve to know. for fucks sake, what did computer programmers invent search engines for anyway.
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joe_aldehyde
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Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:47 pm
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applaud loki, please. how come recently such a lot of dumb fucks turn up asking all the work to be done for them? as if there were no google...


FUCKINGGOOGLEIT.COM
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NS29

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Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:54 pm
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Danke Loki Smile
guess i try reinigungsbenzin then.. too bad it is sold only in little 250ml cans :/
i was a bit afraid because all the extraction teks stress the importance not to use any substitutes for vm&p (as if it is available all over the globe)
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