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primathon
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Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:56 am |
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Got this in my inbox recently:
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it's me, syn,
You must pass this note around to all the admins and staff,
Drug police have been tapping my phones, emails, etc, and have approached me ... in what seems to be a sting operation,.
You must pass this on ... to whoever else wants to see this site stay open,.
For the past 4 weeks we have been under invesigation from Aud Drg. police.
they are trying to find members who are not obeying the law, I am not sure wht is happening in the us, but here for the aud members, they might be in hot water.
<note: unless the servers have been physically compromised and they are actively logging IP addresses (unlikely, I believe), you don't have anything to worry about. There is no IP-related data stored anywhere in our database>
Anyway, I have told our hosts, solidhost.com, that I can no longer be a part of this, so as of on the 22-23rd of this month, the server here will go down,
So that's only a week to get everything off safely, So the race is on, I am doing nothing illegal, otherwise i would probably be in jail by now, but the police seem very determined to keep watching all my actions,
Please pass this on ... and I hope that this site for the members sake, can continue, in a different location maybee,
Anyway, without saying too much, good luck to the future of hobbyiest chemistry,.
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Very shortly I'll be putting up direct-link lists of all the pertinant files on our server. As it may be going down not too long from now (and I unfortunately can't afford to host this mo'fucka), I see no reason not to hammer the everloving shit out of it's bandwidth allotment. Take all you need, as fast as you can suck it down. But mark my words, this information will not be lost. Backups have been made, and the collective effort put forth here will resurface in time. I swear it. You will be able to find this again. We will not go down forever; hosting can be acquired (outside of the fucking United States), and payments can be made on it anonymously.
We can not be stopped. We will not be stopped. They can regulate and ban whatever they like, but we will be the thorn in their side that nags for an understanding of truth. Our research is important, god dammit. The Hive going down did not deter us, and nor will this. We will prevail. |
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2spun
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:07 am |
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Hear Hear!!!
and what ever swiy can do please say!
as well a thank you primathon. |
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java
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:05 am |
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I've taken the url off the books so the direct link to rapidshare or whatever can be seen and cut and pasted if one was to copy the whole folder one would get the link info......java
Note: don't forget the archive download area is located here.....
http://www.mfi.synthetikal.com/
Hopefully there will be one more updated synthetikal archive , which will be the last , thank you nubee for all your fine work, I will continue on at WD and sciecemadness ......I will miss the fine membership here.......java |
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nubee
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:51 pm |
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at this stage there wont be any-more updates to the offline synthetikal archive, as the back-up it was made from at https://www.synthetikal.com/arch/ has not been updated for some time, i thought it was automatic, but maybe not and had to be executed... 
so get busy saving those posts... and maybe if were luck a sql dumb may surface...
"strike with precision till it blows up in your face and the smoke blurs your vision" -mushroomhead  |
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Harmonia
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:22 pm |
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One question, why the fuck isn't the board shut down?
Letting it stay on-line is incredibly stoopid.
Pray for peoples safety and just erase the database!
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nubee
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:33 pm |
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not much point, just plays into the meme that there was something to hide, when this was all about coming together.
taking it offline wouldnt prevent anything that couldnt have had ample opportunity to happen by now... |
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java
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:47 pm |
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| So my fellow members I invite you to move your dreams over to our friends WD and Sciencemadness.org, with hesitation I also include drugs-forum.com, to continue your hobby, chemistry, as all that was toiled here has been shared and back up's are available the only thing that will be lost if you , the member fade away....of course many of you are allready at this forums but may have another nick. I will be java at WD and solo at sciencemadness, where I can be of help if needed, until your next contact ........java |
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nubee
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:55 pm |
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Harmonia
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:03 pm |
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| Taking it offline would prevent people from still posting, still surfing the board logged in so their usernames could be connected to an ip-number if authorities have made a deal with the ISP... |
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nubee
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:06 pm |
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perhaps so... but i cant do it ... if they want ip's they dont need to get deals with the ISP's,...
easy as reaching over and getting the latest printout of traffic logs from echelon... |
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hAzzBEEn
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:47 pm |
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What is the *.rar.md5 file extension at the Synthetikal - Downloads page? I see a *.rar file and a *.rar.md5 file for each download.
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I've taken the url off the books so the direct link to rapidshare or whatever can be seen and cut and pasted if one was to copy the whole folder one would get the link info......java
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What is meant by this? Can someone clarify?
hB |
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primathon
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:50 pm |
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Erase the database? Are you mental? Do you have any idea how many cumulative man-hours have been put into research conducted under this name? And you want to just wipe all that, huh? I think not.
To perhaps ease your paranoia a bit, here's an excerpt of correspondance I had with someone who knows much more than I about these matters:
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To the best of my understanding, there is no law which makes a site of this nature illegal. You are not, by hosting this site, breaking the law. In 1988 there was big push in Congress to pass a law that made sites of this nature illegal. It contained penalties, defined offenses related to disseminating information on how to make illicit drugs. The law did not make it out of the Senate because of its implications for the first amendment.
The United States has in the first amendment freedom of speech and press. We do not limit the right of the people to share information, to hold opinions, to think in any certain way. We can make it illegal to conspire to break the laws regarding drugs, but more than information sharing is needed to do this. Look at how much actual information is in the public domain anyway. Much of what happens here is a discussion of information already available to the world anyway. The point at which it becomes a conspiracy is when we trade with each other, deal with each other, send each other packages, collaborate on an ongoing project together. The rules at the Hive said it very well. Keep it timeless and impersonal.
Is this a guarantee that the DEA or homeland Security or the FBI or you state bureaus with badges will leave you alone? No, it is not.
You have the duty to yourself to be clean, to have a clean house, to keep the paper trails to you clipped, to make it hard. They would, no doubt, prefer this site not be here. IF they could nail you on a legal violation, they might like to do so. It is your job to leave them nothing to indict you on.
I do not know of anyone who has been arrested for being a member of the Hive, or Chemhead, or WetDreams. I know that if they really wanted to find me, it would not be at all difficult to do. Even with the misinformation I leave in posts that divulge personal information, I have given more than enough to find me. I keep a clean house. I might be susceptible to falling on possession charges more than anything else, but I think this is more likely as a result of my local ties and friendships, than to my online ones.
I assume everything I have ever posted has been read by the DEA. I assume every PM, every email, every post... has a permanent copy in some government agency. I think if they wanted me they would come get me, and I suspect they have not because I don't really do them that much injury being who I am.
The site, like the Hive, is not the DEA's nightmare. To them, this is a modest irritant. They think in terms of organized cartels, of large conspiracies to move tons of narcotics and drugs. They are probably correct in concluding that the measures taken in the last two years with gakking the pills and getting the laws passed putting pseudo in the pharmacies are going to take the ---- problem down several notches. It already has. If this site were to start discussing how make MDMA by the kilo, or how to process cocaine by the ton, or make ---- several pounds at a time, it would draw a great deal more attention.
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If they want your IP that bad, there's other ways for them to go about getting it (see above).
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java
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:53 pm |
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Namely if you look at the entry instead of saying the name of the book and then a hyperlinked pdf or djvu, I instead took off the url belt so one can see the actual link where the book can be downloaded, so if you wanted to copy the whole list in a html page you can copy the link and get the book you want ,not so if the pdf, or djvu tag was there and no view of the direct link.......
Not sure but the one highlighted in red is the most recent but then youmight PM nubee and ask him..........java |
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nubee
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Re: re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:59 pm |
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| hAzzBEEn wrote: |
What is the *.rar.md5 file extension at the Synthetikal - Downloads page? I see a *.rar file and a *.rar.md5 file for each download.
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an md5 file contains a number or "hash" that is a "unique signiture" for that file and that file only. this enable one to varify using a program that makes and checks these codes against there parent files for a match, and thus that your file download integrity is ok, and as not been corrupted by various means since the time that the code was generated...
Check the integrity of files with md5: Advanced CheckSum Verifier (ACSV)
i have felt pretty much all those points made in that post prima during my time of merging with the fields and meme's oozing around an alchemists endeavors  |
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mk-1
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re: Here's What's Next
Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:12 pm |
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| man, we need to keep this site up... it would be a shame if it went down. WD and sciencemadness are both nice places, but they do not match this site here. what can we do?? |
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