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Star-light · Blacklight bulb

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.drugs.chemistry/browse_thread/thread/b7385a40e90e13ad/845e06b840d4db95?hl=en#845e06b840d4db95

java · Consumer

I've had a chance to read the post and I was very dissappointed if in fact that took place. I would like to know who did that in the membership, and also why? I would like to see the administration to contact this person and find out who sent them the e-mails and report back to us the members.

In a follow up post onthe same thread there were some unkind things said of this forum although with so many adds running a while back i could see their point. As to the activity of this board, although light ,one has to remember we're only 3months old.

As any new forum, others will look hard and ready to judge, so we must do our best as members to contribute in at least that aspect , don't make the forum look bad......not much to ask, of course if members could spend some time and post something as to their experience here or provide a link to a source of journals or books or an interesting synthesis , with 800 hundred members that would surely keep the board buzzing.

The truth of the matter is that most boards only have a small percentage of their membership on line and posting , at the Hive , with 5000 members on a good dayou could find 40.....wow , and on a spanish language chemistry forum with 15,000 registered members , the most I've seen there are 20-25........java

MargaretThatcher · Sat May 07, 2005 4:36 am

java · Consumer

Here is the thread posted at the opiophile forum........java

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=334

Guest · Sat May 07, 2005 8:36 am

Ok, I just read the post,

Don't worry it's all bullshit, and a bit of angst on the part of opiophile.org,

Here's the truth, of what really happened,
I knew this would happen, as the people at opiophile.org have been sending me, very unpleasant letters, recently,
Also they were private letters sent between bi11i, the owner of opiophile, and myself,

nubee · Master Archiver

only a minor detail, but i dont remember there ever being popup's here... Very Happy

Guest · Sat May 07, 2005 9:30 am

Yeh, he's coming up with fantastic lies, makes me cringe,

ultimately, he is upset with his site, I don't think he has many members, and when he saw our site, he just went on a bitch session,
Saying we are cluttered, and oh, the adds, oh the adds,

So i told him that our members like the adds, and they are focused on chemistry, and that they pay or our site,
As everyone here knows, and appreciates,
We just don't want to close down ever, so this is our new system, and it is working, maybee too well, we are jut about to get our new dedicated server, well sorry, opiophile, our members deserve this, and they have paid for it,

He is just your usual feed my ego, kind of guy, give a forum, so I can be king deal,
yet, he stil has donatipons on his site, fucckin hypocrit

When i was speaking to him, I realiased that he was very young, and reminded me, of all the aggressive people tht foeums usually to get,

I tried saying to him, that if he put a few adds up, he also could do more with his site,
I hoinestly did this out of true altruistic motiation,
I just wanted to help him, I was talking wemaster to webmaster, and he kept on thinking i was trying to push it io him, which i clearly was just talking with him, and giving him inspiring new ideas,

The next day, I went to his site, and he had installed our frontpage, on his site, and this is when his angle changed, and he started to try and sell me webhosting, and emails,

All i did waws post a link on his forum, and he was the one that kept wanting to speak to me,
he is still emailing me now, and his temper is like a childs,
"Damn right, I'm gonna send this note out" he said,
But then he changed all the facts, what an arsole,

I think everyone here knows my intentions, in regards to this site,
he has just come bolting in, and assumed that we are like his site, built on money and ego, all for a bottom line,
One we don't have,

Here is his email address
bi11i@opiophile.org

Can our members just email him, and tell him what he has done and that he is trying to cause great harm, and maybee he will then know what w all think of synthetikal

Let's try and trn this into something good, and benefit from this damage, from this individual,

But as it stands now, I don't recommend anybody visiting opiophile.org, untill we get an opology, and get this sorted out,

syn

Guest · Sat May 07, 2005 10:02 am

Somebody is trying to take away our great site,

Please help protect synthetikal with the truth,

Please go here: http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.drugs.chemistry/browse_thread/thread/b7385a40e90e13ad/845e06b840d4db95?hl=en

And have your say, and speak the truth, about what you know is true,

We are underattack from www.opiophile.org

From this sleazebag bi11i@opiophile.org

Who is telling us, what we do, rather than actually knowing,

2spun · The Resistor

swiy,
can send bi11i a mail in support of synthetikal eazie.
2spun

Guest · Sat May 07, 2005 10:15 am

Sorry, this has got me really worked up,

thanks 2spun, much appreciated

I hope this sends a clear message to them

syn

Guest · Sat May 07, 2005 10:35 am

i am glad to say, that what there saying is untrue,

Yes, we have adds, but that is for the future of our site, it pays for our server, only just,
My system has been down, but we have been experimenting with different add placements as you know,
And i think we will stick with this one,
As you know, we always listen to what our members want, and quite often we try to go past that, and we hope that is what is making us great,

Java, this guy, just wanted to start an argument with me, and he was successfull,
and then he used that arguement for the basis of his posts,
But to find that he has lied, and edited, my emails, is shocking, and plain devious,
after the argument, I asked him not to post the contents of our conversation, which he quickly did, but which he edited, and made up,
None of what he said is true, it is propaganda, to serve his own interests,

At the heat of the argument, I made some comments, that must have sunk home, and the rest is history,
His anger tell the rest,
It was he that wanted to sell me webspace, and a free email account, wtf?

But, I am sure he has more in stall for us, as i did give him an enlightening talk to,

He made remarks about our layout, and design, and that was enough for me, to give him an earfull, which has obvioulsy madee him question himself, hence the anger,

Every email, he consequently sent me, was crescending with more anger,
And i gues he thought he could get me back, by trying to defame me, and our boards, using the adds, as his only platform, for revenge,
Which he has done, but he has actually made up some wonderful stuff, and goverments, and shit,- sounds good, but anyone that knows me, or this board, would know, that it is something that we wouldn't do,

This guy is really hurt at the moment, and he has no way out of his predicament, as far as he can see,
he also owns a hosting company, so this will really affect his partners adversly, having such a loose canonn like that as a mouth piece,

like most people, he confused our adds, with personal profiteering, not site growth or marketing,
We are about to get a 400gb/3000gb server, that we could never pof afforded before the adds, and if we can get into the mindset, that the adds help our chemistry, this won't happen,

I do feel sorry for him, but I cannot put all this hardwork into this board, 1000's of my hours, and jackoozi, watchers, indole, java, 2spun, and the millions more that have helped, to see it slammed by this dickhead, who has an anger problem, and not get upset,
Of course i am,
And I will expose this wanker for the fraud he is,

syn

Guest · Sat May 07, 2005 10:48 am

Yes, we do have accounts, that do show how much we earn every month, from the adds,
and they are displayed in the moderators forum,

At anytime you can ask jackoozi or I, about them, which is why we put them in the moderators forum, for our long term members, the ones that believe in us,

They are there, I know that they also need to be updated, Wink

I have deleted your post malestra, and I think yo know why,
not the most patriotic of posts, and if you read our posts, you wouldn't have wrote that,
The reason the adds, have been hectic lately is that my adssl has been down, and we have been experimenting,
Is that ok?

syn

2spun · The Resistor

speak'n of google,
can anyone get on? it's 19:00 on my end and i can not seem to get google on-line?
am i the only one?
2spun

Guest · Sun May 08, 2005 10:21 am

Well now that the dust has settled,
I think we have a clearer view on what's happened,

We are not going to waste our energy on this anymore,
As our energy is best spent here, improving the site

So, to our our members, and new members from opiophile, as we have always said,
This is your place, and it has been built by all of us,
Let's continue where we left off,

For any new members from opiophile, We all welcome you, and look forward to putting this matter behind us,

Syn

thenewrunne · Chemically Balanced

1) The ads on here are acceptable and done with taste.
2) What's so wrong with you guys making a few bucks from all this?
3) I come here so I *don't* have to go to shitty places like a fucking USENET group.

Just ignore the idiots on that group.