Author Topic: LIST OF DEA LISTED PRECURSORS (Read 574 times)

llamabox · « **on:** March 24, 2009, 03:13:47 AM »

DEA List #1 Chemicals: You will probably be asked for additional information when you try to order these.

(1) Anthranilic acid, its esters, and its salts
(2) Benzyl cyanide
(3) Ephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
(4) Ergonovine and its salts
(5) Ergotamine and its salts
(6) N-Acetylanthranilic acid, its esters, and its salts
(7) Norpseudoephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
(8 ) Phenylacetic acid, its esters, and its salts
(9) Phenylpropanolamine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
(10) Piperidine and its salts
(11) Pseudoephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical
isomers
(12) 3,4-Methylenedioxyphenyl-2-propanone
(13) Methylamine and its salts
(14) Ethylamine and its salts
(15) Propionic anhydride
(16) Isosafrole
(17) Safrole
(18) Piperonal
(19) N-Methylephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical
isomers (N-Methylephedrine)
(20) N-Methylpseudoephedrine, its salts, optical isomers, and salts of optical isomers
(21) Hydriodic Acid
(22) Benzaldehyde
(23) Nitroethane
(24) Gamma-Butyrolactone (Other names include: GBL; Dihydro-2 (3H)-furanone; 1,2-Butanolide; 1,4-Butanolide; 4-Hydroxybutanoic acid lactone; gamma-hydroxybutyric acid lactone)
(25) Red Phosphorus
(26) White phosphorus (Other names: Yellow Phosphorus)
(27) Hypophosphorous acid and its salts
(including ammonium hypophosphite,
calcium hypophosphite,
iron hypophosphite,
potassium hypophosphite
manganese hypophosphite
magnesium hypophosphite
and sodium hypophosphite

DEA List #2 chemicals: You could also encounter difficulties when you order one of the more common chemicals below.

(1) Acetic anhydride
(2) Acetone
(3) Benzyl chloride
(4) Ethyl ether
(5) Potassium permanganate
(6) 2-Butanone (or Methyl Ethyl Ketone or MEK)
(7) Toluene
(8 ) Hydrochloric acid (including anhydrous hydrogen chloride)
(9) Sulfuric acid
(10) Methyl Isobutyl Ketone (MIBK)
(11) Iodine

Health & Safety Code (SEC 1, section 11100) listed precursor chemicals: Many vendors such as Fisher Scientific no longer sell these items (some on this list overlap with the DEA List #1 above): .

(1) Phenyl-2-propanone.
(2) Methylamine.
(3) Ethylamine.
(4) D-lysergic acid.
(5) Diethyl malonate.
(6) Ergotamine tartrate.
(7) Malonic acid.
(8 ) Ethyl malonate.
(9) Barbituric acid.
(10) Piperidine.
(11) N-acetylanthranilic acid.
(12) Pyrrolidine.
(13) Phenylacetic acid.
(14) Anthranilic acid.
(15) Morpholine.
(16) Ephedrine.
(17) Pseudoephedrine.
(18) Norpseudoephedrine.
(19) Phenylpropanolamine.
(20) Propionic anhydride.
(21) Isosafrole.
(22) Safrole.
(23) Piperonal.
(24) Thionylchloride.
(25) Benzyl cyanide.
(26) Ergonovine maleate.
(27) N-methylephedrine.
(28) N-ethylephedrine.
(29) N-methylpseudoephedrine.
(30) N-ethylpseudoephedrine.
(31) Chloroephedrine.
(32) Chloropseudoephedrine.
(33) Hydriodic acid.

(34) Gamma-butyrolactone, including butyrolactone; butyrolactone gamma; 4-butyrolactone; 2(3H)-furanone dihydro; dihydro-2 (3H)-furanone; tetrahydro-2-furanone; 1,2-butanolide; 1,4 butanolide; 4-butanolide; gamma-hydroxybutyric acid lactone; 3-hydroxybutyric acid lactone and 4-hydroxbutanoic acid lactone with Chemical Abstract Service number (96-48-0).

(35) 1,4-butanediol, including butanediol, butane-1,4-diol; 1,4-butylene glycol; butylene glycol; 1,4 -dihydroxbutane; 1,4-tetramethylene glycol; tetramethylene glycol; tetramethylene 1,4-diol with Chemical Abstract Service number (110-63-4).

(36) Red phosphorous, including white phosphorous, hypophosphorous acid and its salts, ammonium hypophosphite, calcium hypophosphite, iron hypophosphite, potassium hypophosphite, manganese hypophosphite, magnesium hypophosphite, and sodium hypophosphite.

SEC. 6 Section 11107.1 of the Health and Safety Code: The items below are not as regulated and are still available from vendors such as Fisher Scientific. However, purchasing these requires two forms of identification, one of which can be a DEA registration number (available from CNSM Safety or Joyce Kunishima).

acetic anhydride
bromobenzene
cyclohexanone
dichlorodifluoromethane
hydrogen chloride gas
iodine
lead acetate
magnesium turnings
mercuric chloride
paladium black
potassium cyanide
sodium acetate
sodium cyanide
sodium metal
trichlorofluoromethane (fluorotrichloromethane)
1,1,2-trichloro-1,2,2-trifluoroethane (trichlorotrifluoroethane)

Enkidu · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2009, 06:57:57 AM »

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/chem_prog/advisories/surveillance.htm

The following is the Special Surveillance List for laboratory supplies used in the manufacture of controlled substances and listed chemicals:

Special Surveillance List Published Pursuant to Title 21, United States Code, Section 842(a)(11)

Chemicals

All listed chemicals as specified in 21 CFR 1310.02 (a) or (b). This includes all chemical mixtures and all over-the-counter (OTC) products and dietary supplements which contain a listed chemical, regardless of their dosage form or packaging and regardless of whether the chemical mixture, drug product or dietary supplement is exempt from regulatory controls.

* Ammonia Gas
* Ammonium Formate
* Bromobenzene
* 1,1-Carbonyldiimidazole
* Cyclohexanone
* 1,1-Dichloro-1-fluoroethane (e.g. Freon 141B)
* Diethylamine and its salts
* 2,5-Dimethoxyphenethylamine and its salts
* Formamide
* Formic Acid
* Hypophosphorous Acid
* Lithium Metal
* Lithium Aluminum Hydride
* Magnesium Metal (Turnings)
* Mercuric Chloride
* N-Methylformamide
* Organomagnesium Halides (Grignard Reagents) (e.g. ethylmagnesium bromide and phenylmagnesium bromide)
* Phenylethanolamine and its salts
* Phosphorus Pentachloride
* Potassium Dichromate
* Pyridine and its salts
* Red Phosphorus
* Sodium Dichromate
* Sodium Metal
* Thionyl Chloride
* ortho-Toluidine
* Trichloromonofluoromethane (e.g. Freon-11, Carrene-2)
* Trichlorotrifluoroethane (e.g. Freon 113)

Equipment

* Hydrogenators
* Tableting Machines
* Encapsulating Machines
* 22 Liter Heating Mantels

Individuals and firms which distribute listed chemicals and chemicals, products, materials, or equipment on the above list, are hereby officially notified that these materials may be used in the illicit production of certain controlled substances or listed chemicals.

[...]

This surveillance list may be revised as appropriate. Notice of proposed changes will be published as they occur. While publication in the Federal Register satisfies the notification requirements for the Special Surveillance List, DEA is attempting to disseminate the list as widely as possible. Therefore, copies of the list will be sent to appropriate industry associations and trade journals, and to the extent practical, to individual manufacturers and distributors of "laboratory supplies."' In addition, a current surveillance list will be available on the DEA homepage at http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/.

Small Business Impact and Regulatory Flexibility Concerns

The Special Surveillance List applies to all individuals and firms which distribute the listed chemicals and laboratory supplies (chemicals, products, materials, or equipment) on the list. The notice does not impose any record-keeping or reporting requirements for any of the laboratory supplies which are not listed chemicals. Thus the surveillance list will have a negligible impact on affected parties. The notice serves two purposes. First, it informs individuals and firms of the potential use of the items on the list for the production of listed chemicals and illicit drugs.

poisoninthestain · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2009, 10:13:15 AM »

Interesting. I haven't seen this precursor list before.

I find the magnesium metal bullshit.

I also think the 2C-H is ridiculous. Anyone with a brain inside their skull knows better not to start with the amine. What a bunch of idiots. I guess they're only on here to restrict the folks that are straight "recipe" cooks.

I'm surprised GABA isn't on here since GBL is list 1. It'd make sense.

Maybe they should include baking soda. They have nothing better to do.

The mercuric chloride kinda saddens me. $:-\$ ...last time I checked it's not hard at all to source. Then again I never buy more than 10g at a time. It's unnecessary. Besides, all that poison in one area kind of freaks me out.

Thankfully, a lot on the list can be prepared OTC.

Mercuric salts, including HgCl2, can be prepared easily from only a little bit of elemental Hg because of it's high density. Also since the reaction is inorganic it's fast and yields are >90%.

Annie can be made from OTC if you've got the rig for it. It's *possibile* in theory(i've also seen some writeups for it) that you can distil AmOH with acetone/dry ice as the condenser pool. I've never attempted it though.

The rest are kind of hard-really hard with the exception of a few that are obvious.

Vesp · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2009, 10:05:24 PM »

Annie is slang for what chemical?

poisoninthestain · « **Reply #4 on:** April 02, 2009, 10:35:35 PM »

Anhydrous ammonia.

Vesp · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2009, 10:41:36 PM »

Oh all right, I think decomposing dry urea would be a good method of making anhydrous NH3.

poisoninthestain · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2009, 10:44:23 PM »

It's ironic you'd say that. I was just thinking of the same thing. I was talking to a chemist who got busted recently...said the popo took a bucket of his urine to make NH3.

How exactly would you decompose urea? Simply just heat it to its BP and collect the NH3?

Vesp · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2009, 11:12:00 PM »

Yep just heat it and collect the gas that comes off. What is left behind is cyanuric acid, and other chemicals related to that and urea, such as melamine.

NaOH + Urea or any ammonium compound would also produce ammonia obviously, but it would need to be dried. Any ideas as how one might do that? I guess anhydrous MgSO4 would work.

Douchermann · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2009, 09:25:45 AM »

Yes, MgSO4 works, and NaOH/KOH. Just don't use CaCl2, since I believe it forms some stupid ass complex. Not to get off topic thought

Very interesting list, I might have to snatch some of those that are not on list 1 before they make the transition. Obviously acetone wont be a problem, but some of the more interesting would be a good investment, perhaps.

Vesp · « **Reply #9 on:** April 19, 2009, 05:25:19 AM »

I have a document on making a solar powered freezing, and it uses CaCl2, and NH3 gas. the NH3 gas forms a complex with the CaCl2 at night, and is then heated by the sun causing the complex to decompose into Ammonia again.
If it is hard to make anhydrous liquid ammonia, perhaps it is worth making this complex and then heating it. eh.. I guess it is a stupid idea. Seems like there are many other easier ways to make liquid ammonia. This would be really dry though I bet, since the dehydration temperature of calcium chloride is decently high. If there is another use for calcium chloride and ammonia it may be to absorb noxious ammonia gases that are fuming from a reaction. I don't know how effective that would be though. Its cheap, and you wouldn't have to worry about suck-back as you do with water and other gas absorbing substances.

Enkidu · « **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2009, 05:49:31 PM »

DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CHEMICALS OF INTEREST

Vesp · « **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2009, 09:27:02 PM »

Interesting PDF, did those chemicals only apply for terrorism, or also drugs? I didn't see drugs, but it seems like a decent amount of those would be more useful for drugs then terrorism.

Enkidu · « **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2009, 10:01:10 PM »

Yes, that list is dedicated toward terrorism (mostly explosives and chemical weapons, I assume). Some chemicals could also be used in drug synthesis and extraction, but the primary concern of Homeland Security is terrorism. It should be noted that the interest in any chemical with a nonzero reporting threshold probably won't effect its acquisition process by a hobbiest, due to the small purchase size.

Vanadium · « **Reply #13 on:** August 03, 2009, 07:56:31 AM »

I'm shocked halosafrole isn't on that list.

2bfrank · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2009, 01:33:20 PM »

Yeah the fucking list. Where my friend, so he told me, looks out his window, there are 3 lists, the 1st requires an account, the second requres an end user dec, the third requires a destributor that is a human fucking being who should tell you that ALL orders by them get sent a copy to the DEA. They cover their a$$es, which as a business person perhaps is undestandable and fine, but what isn't understandable is the possibility that they avoid telling you this, and perhaps you only find out when they fuck up an order, or so ive heard.
Perhaps your view is differnent to my friends, Perhaps not.

German · « **Reply #15 on:** August 24, 2009, 04:15:01 AM »

Hydrochloric acid is probably the stupidest one listed. I mean wtf are they going to do, ban swimming pools??? They should just take it off the list out of sheer pointlessness. At the pace they are at twenty years from now the list will look like this:

*all swimming pool supplies
*all cleaning supplies
*all soap making supplies
*all proteins
*all fragrances
*all essential oils
*drain cleaner
*fertilizer
*starting fluid

So in the future we will all smell like shit because soap will be outlawed and we won't be able to camouflage our stench with fragrances, which won't matter anyways since you won't be able to go to the store to get soap because your fucking car won't start from not having starting fluid. So the only thing you'll be able to do is hang around your house all day which would be cool if your swimming pool wasn't a fucking green pool of algae and your lawn didn't look like shit from not being able to fertilize it. In the end everyone will be stuck inside their homes, smelling their own stench and that of their backed up toilet overflowing with shit absent of drain cleaner and cleaning supplies, all the while wishing that their scrawny ass arms could benefit from some protein. Thank you very much fucking DEA.

rocketman · « **Reply #16 on:** August 25, 2009, 04:03:45 AM »

How about this to get ammonia: Put ammonium nitrate (good ammount in cold packs) and sodium carbonate into water solution, evaporate the water to get sodium nitrate and ammonium carbonate.

Ammonium carbonate decomposes into carbon dioxide and ammonia gas with only mild heat (at like 60 degrees celsius)...

Vesp · « **Reply #17 on:** August 25, 2009, 07:45:00 AM »

Because the ammonia, water, and carbon dioxide will recombine. Just like ammonium chloride does when it is decomposed.

rocketman · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:05:17 AM »

what water? There is no water.
(NH4)2CO3 ...AAAh wow this is ashaming............ and I was so sure it would work...

Vesp · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:08:15 AM »

even if they're weren't water you wouldn't be able to separate the ammonia from the carbon dioxide.

Urea pyrolysis is probably the best, followed by reacting a hydroxide with something like ammonium sulfate, chloride, nitrate, etc.

Its not that hard.
Getting it totally dry might be, however.

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