I can agree on that 100%,I noticed the same thing!

MDA/MDMA mix might work in some way!
Got some MDA from a friend 2 weeks ago but didn't mixed it with a MDMA.
I am working on my own MDA now,waiting for the ingredients...

RoidRage you are obviously an exception not a rule!
MDMA is THE BEST psychoactive compound EVER for most people.
MDA for me is lame in comparison to MDMA,totally different!
It's great but weird mix of cocaine,amphetamine,alcohol and shrooms.
No love,no bliss,no awe,no peace,no child inside,nor wonderful world.
It's just a great high!
MDA is best thing I encountered when it comes to being high,but I want something else now.
For me MDMA is what I want,spiritual drug that brings back paradise lost!
There are no words that can describe what I feel on MDMA.
That unique feeling of fanaticism and unconditional love you are going to die for
full of pride and joy being fulfilled + childlike view on the world!
There are definitely oxytocine and endorphins involved in that!

my thoughts exactly on describing mda vs mdma.  i will say that a combo of mdma/mda is just absolutely insane.  you're fucked up beyond all belief from the mda but have the love/empathy/euphoria of the mdma.  i find that much like a candyflip, mdma takes the 'edge' off mda.  but still the mda/mdma combo is nothing to sneeze at.  it's very intense, like cross-eyed seeing double, zoning out, waves of "sit your ass down" type euphoria, mescaline-style "3rd eye" type visuals to name a few.  i like a lot of drugs, i like opiates too much, but i can honestly say i truly love mdma and i cherish the hell out of it.  it's a sad, sad thing when i overdo it and my tolerance goes through the roof and i lose the magic.  i have nobody to blame but myself but i also know that in time, it comes back.  just stay away from serotonergic drugs and you'll become more sensitive to it again.  so i take a nice long break and take another stab at it and the magic returns.  one time i took a break for a year and a half or two years, can't remember.  before the break the magic (immense empathy) was long gone and it would just make me nod from the euphoria, but felt little empathy.  after that long break i rolled again and that shit felt like one of my first 20 times or so - all over again.  i couldn't believe how amazing it was.  how blessed i was to have such wonderful people in my life, how good it felt to simply breath, it made me love everything and everyone - to varying levels of course.  as of this moment, unfortunately i am in the need of another break as i've been overdoing it.  i need to cherish it for the precious compound it is and stop abusing it because it's readily available and i'm kinda bored.

There is good odds you hit the nail on the head even if you don't realize it. It might not be the drugs that are loosing its effect but your enviroment instead. I always found a camp fire and good MDMA to be the best way in the world to unwind and forget all of lifes burdons. Doing the same amount week after week at the clubs just can get tiresome and its hard to see the sparkel of magic when your distorted mind has already made sense of the distorted reality around it. If the scene gets old the brain looses that new feeling. Perhaps thats all everyone here needs, to just go find a new place to camp that you have never laid eyes on, some of your closest freinds and see if the roll is any different. Leave your Alcohol at home as well as all other substances except perhaps weed. Id be willing to bet it would be a night not soon forgotten even if its not the super high energy of the clubs.

you're right about that also sedit.  not only does tolerance play a role but i've noticed that even when my tolerance was fairly normal, i got tired of rolling with the same people at the same place pretty quickly.  so the next time i rolled i had my wife drive my fubared self out to a few public places i enjoy and that's new sociability was exactly what i needed.  the night was magical and i rolled harder on a smaller dose than i do with "the same old people at the same old place" on almost twice the dose.  sure i wasn't as fucked up as if i dosed higher, but it felt more magical, newer, more rewarding.

My opinion .

I`ve had a LOT of experience with piracetam over the last 20 years or more and i dont do it anymore . I have the feeling that its robbing peter to pay paul . When i see the doses that some people , at least claim to , take i can only shake my head . We are our brain chemistry and fucking around with it without real knowledge is not my thing . The same goes for "research chemicals" . I want to see sensible scientific research about them and the combinations BEFORE i would take it / them . My brain isnt a dustbin for things that might make me or my kids grow flippers at some later time . Also i am not a fan of people trying to create highs by mixeing things because it doesnt work consistently . Drugs are not lego blocks . Drugs do what they do and what the good ones do is enough for me IF one takes a sensible dose and then has a long recovery period inbetween . I think that most peoples drug problems come from takeing to much to often . Then the magic dies and they try to take more to get it back . The more they take the more the adverse effects and the less high they get .

Another thing i`ve noticed is that VERY many people who claim to do things / take drugs are lieing through their teeth . That can be seen on psycho-babel where there are very often posts by people who claim to have extracted things but their descriptions of what happened / what they did are plain wrong and they VERY rarely say what the effects were other than "It was good" .

As far as bluelight goes there are in my opinion to many iresponsible polytoxic kamikasis there in free fall who will eventualy hit the deck with a BIG bang

SO both the last lines i wrote come back to the same thing . Can we trust the reports of people in the net ? Or should we base our drug consume on scientificaly proven data ?.

As far as MDMA and MDA goes i`ve stopped takeing it because i abused it and fryed my brain and fucked my emotions . Recovering took me at a guess about 5 years . I was more into MDA though but that is rare where i am .

Very interesting to read the different experiences here.

Myself, I was blessed, somehow, with the needed reverence and restraint even when holding lots and lots to only do MDMA once every few months, even during the peak time 2000-2001 as well as later when I didn't have a lab anymore. However, I don't judge those who find it harder to resist, because after all we're talking about such an amazing sacrament. I know it's difficult for most to stay away.

Personally, I was (and still am!) MUCH MORE afraid of finding that it's lost its magic than anything else. If that ever happened, it know it would be the end of my story with it and then I wouldn't even want to make it, or anything. During the "honeymoon period" with it, say the first five years, I only did it once every two or three months or even less frequent at times. After that, say from 2002-present, more like 3 times a year decreasing down to what it is today which is very infrequent... I think the last time was a year and a half ago. But this is fine, because when I wait that long I know (and yet hope) that the magic will still be there. I don't know... if I ever found that MDMA now seemed wrong, I might lose my feel for all entheogens.

RoidRage, your case in particular is really interesting. As others have pointed out, it's very rare for someone to have trouble getting the right effects from MDMA unless they have other things in their system that are interfering or are unhealthy or something. I hope you don't mind my asking this, but is the 'roid thing a joke or do you really take them? I don't know about any contraindications for steroids and MDMA use, but I sure wouldn't be surprised to learn there are some. I know this isn't what you or most people would want to hear, but if you really want to experience it fully, I mean 100%, you would have to actually sacrifice some things for a while. Other drugs, bad food, unhealthy habits (not enough sleep, ignoring nutrition, etc). You would have to sort of be a monk for a few months and lay off everything else ('cept maybe cannabis). This would do it, I GUARANTEE it. Something in your system is off if you need to take 200 mg to begin to really feel it. At that level it almost has to be battering your serotonergic system silly. I'm 5'10"/180 and with my infrequent use, 130-135 mg is incredible (less than 130 is a tease for me). I use a lot of vaporized cannabis, but no other drugs.

Anyway I don't want to sound preachy, I'm trying to avoid that, but I wanted you to see another side of it. It's truly a give-and-take thing---you have to give something to the equation before MDMA will give to you as freely. You can't just do whatever you want whenever you want and then take MDMA in addition and expect it to be a great experience. Your body is a substrate and thus needs to be in the right condition to have the right reaction. There is a chemistry parallel there, and it is apt because we are all biochemical substrate containers. Just as you wouldn't expect a chemical reaction to happen correctly if your substrate in the flask were not right, you can't expect your body (substrate) to get the right effects (reaction) in the right amounts at a reasonable dose.

Sermon completed... please drop your money in the collection box on the way out. Thank you for attending Reverend Methyl's sermon on "Getting right with MDMA"!

i will put it out there that a person on the juice will be stronger and more healthy all round than any of the rest of the frail beanstalks that are against them. testosterone is so beneficial for the body, why are young men so fit and vital?

whats is difference between a young mans body and an older mans body? muscle mass? thyroid output? testosterone levels??

steroids speed up hereditary baldness, if this wasnt the case id spend every year after age 30 on them

oral steroids are what is really bad for you though

also IMO, mixing drugs is not like mixing magic potions where it ends up as some totally different super potion, take a multitude of drugs and your body will send each where it needs to go, whether you took them together or not


research chems are ok, a bit of this and a bit of that is all good every now and then, let me say 6apb was pretty good, no 'magic' but a bit of it.. very stimulating and keeps you awake.. but the hangover or any negative effect was in direct proportion to its lack of magic!

i have had a few fat doses of mdma maybe a few hundred milligrams only a few times in the space of a month other times id have 50mg and sometimes 100 and it took me literally months and months for my memory to repair, months down the track i was still not right.. it is dangerous stuff for your brain.

let me tell you i felt RIPPED OFF like all this study about this beautiful drug with 'no side affects' clearly i discovered, the 'magic' of the home made mdma was not for free! not at all! although very worth it if done 1 time a month high dose or 2 times a month maybe 100mg a time.

also on a final note i know yous all love weed but weed is good maybe 1 time a month no more. i have weed and i am lazy for days. too much weed makes people a zombie playing playstation and watching cartoons for thier life

yes that was a gross generalization. i guess that is just what it is like for me but everyone is different, i have found that around here everyone is very unique in thier own way, different to people i have met in real life that is for sure

Jon has allways simple and brutal solution for any problem! Russian style baby!

MethylMan has aa point here,if you understand MDMA that way it will definitely make your life better
in many ways and forms!
I definiely lost some of it's magic and I wan't it back,no matter the cost!
Will definitely try MDA mixing and piracetam if I find it!
There is not really a need or anticipation to take it like in beginning but I allways take it when I get back home
with my friends and such since I live pretty isolated most of my time...I know,pretty messy life.

You see,we are all different! (take that librals!)
I find weed allmost intolerable,defintiely incapacitating but great for music and such,one of my friends use it very often like it's nothing and other one is stoner zombi,
but I can't handle some situatuions w/o benzos.(Suprisingly I am not an addict,they help me go trought my crysis but I can go w/o them for days,
even months when I am not screwed up by depression/panic from all the obligations and pressure. I use them for disease,don't abuse them for fun,I think there is a key difference!)

UPDATE:
Got some piracetam,now I just need to find good preloading program and some good event to tel you guys how it went!

A lot of euphoria seems to be prominent after weeks of abstinence and a ketamine binge (ndma antagonist)

Other then that I just eat healthy and work out and I never lost the magic.

Roidrage combining with amphetmaines is the way to go

i used n-acetyl tyrosine once it's supposed to be 1000 times more bio available than tyrosine and it seemed to make me extremely manic as in homicidal.
it is very easy to make l-dopa from tyrosine with the fenton reagent.
H2O2 and Ferric chloride.
i don't know if it's such a good idea if you suffer from manic depression.

some people swear by it others say it gave them a headache i just don't know about that stuff.