Author Topic: Returning the magic of MDMA (Read 659 times)

Oerlikon · « **on:** March 12, 2011, 04:05:02 AM »

Yeah,I know,I know...
Many tried it,no one really fixed it.
But why quit trying?!

I just wanted one thread on this subject with plausible ideas
on combinations,supplements...

Some people suggested taking massive doses of 5-HTP prior to MDMA.
Unfortunately reports are confusing,ranging from "a bit dulled" to "no effect" to
"10x better than first few times".

Just had a brainstorm and got another idea!
Ever heard of Tianeptine?!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianeptine#Abuse_and_addiction_potential

We all know that SSRIs can cancel out MDMA.
Now Tianeptine is quite unique drug, SSRE (opposite of SSRI).

Since it works opposite there might be something to it!
Some of you guys know loads of stuff about receptor chemistry
and I know just basics,so any ideas and opinions are welcome!

EDITED:
Damn!
It's really true...google search revealed it!
If you imagined something crazy about drugs other tried it!
But not quite for that exact purpose,but for comedown etc.

Sedit · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2011, 06:01:37 AM »

Fuck all the rest someone who does not get much from MDA please try this next time and report back.

Take some Vitamine B an hour or so before, Mainly ingest some Niacin. I can almost assure that if the two are taken to kick at the same time.... The effects would be amazing. I have no proof but I fear MDA may force a vitamine B deficentcy and that is very bad since it could lead to a nervous collapse.

RoidRage · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2011, 06:05:27 AM »

MDMA has been magic-less for a long for me....but MDA seems to keep it's full effect

Sedit · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2011, 06:29:58 AM »

I agree, but then again MDA's effects always paled in commarison from the start to good MDMA. MDA is if you want to get high where as MDMA is for the experimentor looking for something new. I can get simular effects of MDA with alot of stimulants and some weed perhaps with an opiate on top or something yet MDMA can not be reproduced by any standards. When that effect is gone theres nothing left to experiment with and the books are closed. To me personally, The MDA compounds are in the past. There curiousity value has been undermined by there loss of effects.

RoidRage · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2011, 07:37:08 AM »

I beg to differ, for the only reason that I've never had anything special from MDMA even from the beginning

Don't know what the hell is wrong with me though lol $:-\$

lugh · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2011, 02:59:21 PM »

These old Hive posts may bee of interest:

Thoth
   (Hive Bee)
   09-03-00 06:03
   No 48400
   Re: Things to do to enhance a roll?

   The # way to enhance a roll is prelaoding with amino acids and other chemicals that make sure your neurotransmitters are maxed out. The technique is contraversial but definately has made even core rollers impressed if done right. I aint easy but it brings back first time like rolls.

   What was in Dr. Tom original formula?

   otc supplement min effect doses MAx dose

   5-hydroxytrptophan aka 5HTP 100mg 1000mg
   DL-Phenylalamine 1000mg 5000mg
   L-Tyrosine 1000mg 5000mg
   L-Glutamine 5000mg 20,000mg

   These are the key neuro precursors of course you should include anti ox like A,c,e, Omega acids, DHA, DMAE and anything else you can afford. Ginko and Co Q also protect as does real grape juice plus the benefit of insulin spike which will drive in nutrient accross teh BBB and dumped competing amino acids into the muscles.

   5HTP is finally being accepted as safe. I was touting this 5 years ago as most problems occur from low levels of neurotransmitters depleated while being over stimulated.

   Does excess dopamine damage brain tissue? After many many years of amphetamine abuse and use by teh public I just don't see a big problem here. Compared to alcohol abuse, Id say MDMA is no is no more dnagerous than Prozac.

   Oh yeah takking SSRI to limit dopamine and HT release will for sure limit the excess dopamine and HT. It will SURELY FUCK up your roll and the whole toxicity issue is NIDA backed anti drug hype.

   Use moderation, good nutrition and your going to live long enough. Better to have lived la vida loca than not to lie at all......

   For extensive information and tips on preloading look for the FAQ on prelaoding on bluelight. Keep in mind than many egotistical peeps claims to have improved on the preload but I am the EGO 1 that concived, tested, promoted and made PRELOADING A SCIENCE!

   Dope_Amine
   (Hive Bee / Eraser)
   09-04-00 15:58
   No 48733
   Re: Things to do to enhance a roll?

   Take a Tumms. Bassifying your body with an antacid keeps the MDA/MDMA in your system longer and thus you roll harder and longer.

   something for your mind.......

And of course there's taking a break until the magic comes back

Oerlikon · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2011, 08:12:18 PM »

Sedit I will try few pills of B complex next time,sounds interesting and easy!

I am quite avare that same things will work different in different people.
Any ideas on Tianeptine?!

MDA/MDMA mix might work in some way!
Got some MDA from a friend 2 weeks ago but didn't mixed it with a MDMA.
I am working on my own MDA now,waiting for the ingredients...

RoidRage you are obviously an exception not a rule!
MDMA is THE BEST psychoactive compound EVER for most people.
MDA for me is lame in comparison to MDMA,totally different!
It's great but weird mix of cocaine,amphetamine,alcohol and shrooms.
No love,no bliss,no awe,no peace,no child inside,nor wonderful world.
It's just a great high!
MDA is best thing I encountered when it comes to being high,but I want something else now.
For me MDMA is what I want,spiritual drug that brings back paradise lost!
There are no words that can describe what I feel on MDMA.
That unique feeling of fanaticism and unconditional love you are going to die for
full of pride and joy being fulfilled + childlike view on the world!
There are definitely oxytocine and endorphins involved in that!
Everyone is different,I know I am very weird! For example I cant fall in love with another person
but can fall into unconditional love with an ideal.

Only thing I loved more than MDMA was morphine but that is because I was in fear,pain etc.
and it took all that away and substituted it with a bliss.

RoidRage · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2011, 05:42:22 AM »

Never I WAS NORMAL

I'll give MDMA another try soon, it's been a really long time...MDA seriously gets old after a while, especially since it totally fucks my sleep pattern (Granted, I'm always talking stupid doses)...I'm going all-in next time : Hcl + Citrate salts combo, 300-400mg of HCl equivalent dosage...If that doesn't work out, I'm out...

I definitly needs some new compounds to try ASAP

Sedit · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2011, 06:40:42 AM »

With the dosages yall speak of I dont know how you could not be pleased with MDMAs effects. 150mg of MDMA should have you in the corner with a grin and eyes in the back of your head. I don't understand the lack of emotion people seem to get when taking MDMA.

RoidRage · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2011, 08:11:08 AM »

150mg is really weak for me

Kinda strange since I never really abused MDxx Compounds before (Wasn't a fan of pills AT ALL considering most sucks)...I even doubted the purity of my product at some point ... Isn't the problem either since others persons are getting REALLY high off 100mg...

DopeBee · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2011, 08:58:35 AM »

When I was 18 I was really out of shape from years of abusing alcohol and coke and when I tried MDMA it just made me anxious and a general fucked up feeling. Granted it smelled of methylamine so who knows about the quality. After a few years of working out in prison 12 hours a day and eating crazy like 15000 calories a day I tried homemade MDMA and it was fucking amazing. 100-120mg is all it takes to give me the most amazing high completely relaxed and in total bliss. From personal experience I'd have to say that a healthy body and mind is required to fully enjoy this drug. I take a fuckload of different vitamins and shit tho too.

RoidRage · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2011, 09:20:00 AM »

Never heard about that, but if physical state is somehow related to the high the drug produces as you says, it could be a reason why the effects I get are mild and unimpressive...I was working out A LOT and eating ''perfectly'' before I started college, but I'm now eating like shit and doing absolutly no physical activities. On top of that, I'm consuming alcohol + others substances on a weekly basis $:-\$

DopeBee · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2011, 11:34:23 AM »

Quote

but I'm now eating like shit and doing absolutly no physical activities. On top of that, I'm consuming alcohol + others substances on a weekly basis

Staying active and eating healthy is always a good idea.

RoidRage · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2011, 12:05:56 PM »

For Sure!!!

Easier said than done though when you've been traveling the wrong path for a while

$:-\$

Oerlikon · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2011, 01:40:55 AM »

Definitely easier said than done!

I usually take MDMA alone or with supplements,fully rested and in good health.
of course,being on binge or hangover of any drug else will spoil effects of another drug,it's just a plain logic!

RoidRage · « **Reply #15 on:** March 14, 2011, 04:08:45 AM »

I think MDMA is the only drug I've never taken in a ''Amphetamine combo'' (Stupid stupid I know)...It seriously lacks stimulant effect...At least at the dosage I'm taking, I'm floored...Anyways. 200mg MDA iss quite a bit dosage-wse, but 200mg MDMA isn't unheard of, and it almosts incapacitates me physcially $:-\$ I seriusly don't get where it's ''DANCE ALL-NIGHT LONG IN RAVE'' reputation...Oh yeah,probably from adultered drugs ROFL

Oerlikon · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2011, 12:43:24 PM »

Definitely!
MDMA isn't that much stimulating,and it's incapacitating in bigger doses.
Only thing stimulating is that you can yelp like a woman.

On bigger doses you cant even do that!
You can only stutter and shout nonsens,again like a pissed off woman. (Sry,couldn't resist!

)

You can only stay in the corner,touch everything,grind your teeth,look at the pretty lights,
be fascinated by the music,be fascinated by "good people",giggle and roll your eyes like mad.
Partying is for the MDA,not MDMA!

I preffer MDMA for outdoors!
Hiking,swimming,meditating,shooting...

RoidRage · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2011, 07:31:23 PM »

Hahaha

Goota agree MDA is lot more party-ish than it's cousin. Took a normal dose (100mg) for the first time (

) on friday night and actually loved it a lot lol.

As for MDMA, I would rather takes it with REAL friends somewhere than in a party full of strangers...I'm not really emotionally-open nor empathetic normally lol.

I shall definitly try it outdoors as soon as the temperature gets hotter! Good idea!

Oerlikon · « **Reply #18 on:** March 14, 2011, 07:59:05 PM »

I forgot to point that out!

MDMA is BEST during summer and spring and definitely in good company!

MDMA is made for hot weather and opiates are made for cold.

Sedit · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2011, 03:46:51 AM »

Quote from: RoidRage on March 14, 2011, 07:31:23 PM

Hahaha

Goota agree MDA is lot more party-ish than it's cousin. Took a normal dose (100mg) for the first time ( ) on friday night and actually loved it a lot lol.

As for MDMA, I would rather takes it with REAL friends somewhere than in a party full of strangers...I'm not really emotionally-open nor empathetic normally lol.

I shall definitly try it outdoors as soon as the temperature gets hotter! Good idea!

There is good odds you hit the nail on the head even if you don't realize it. It might not be the drugs that are loosing its effect but your enviroment instead. I always found a camp fire and good MDMA to be the best way in the world to unwind and forget all of lifes burdons. Doing the same amount week after week at the clubs just can get tiresome and its hard to see the sparkel of magic when your distorted mind has already made sense of the distorted reality around it. If the scene gets old the brain looses that new feeling. Perhaps thats all everyone here needs, to just go find a new place to camp that you have never laid eyes on, some of your closest freinds and see if the roll is any different. Leave your Alcohol at home as well as all other substances except perhaps weed. Id be willing to bet it would be a night not soon forgotten even if its not the super high energy of the clubs.

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