Goody goody gum drops i LOVE quizes ......... and people takeing the bait ....... but as i`m haveing fun , your playing the game and to be sporting ------> A clue...... the 4 fotos are all from the same plant !?!?!?!?

Yup ..... some evil bastard ........ = ME ...... deliberately posted the last two fotos to "Shiock and awe" / confuse ........


And guys stay fair and dont .......UTFSE .......

"about cardiovascular health and other stuff related to strokes?"

If you see any info about that i`d be interested to read it please .

Where i live they are quite strickt with herbal things ..... for instance kava is banned because it is said that it can have ill effects ( Liver damage , cancer and heart problems ? )  ..... BUT .....  Where are the ill effects in the people in countrys where it has been used for thousands of years ? .= how much is the pharma lobby stoping sales and research in order to sell more of their chemical waste products as medicines ........ as with extacy , LSD and especialy cannabis ? Here anyone can buy ginko from a super market .

I can acept that maybe if people dont dose corectly ginko can make one sleepless and ones heart beast iregularly but unless i see proper studys that i can read and see where and how they got their info i`ll keep useing it once or twice a month .

As for piracetam i had experience with it over 20 years ? and it soon wears off . Then when one stops one notices a big defecit .Ginko has had trials for thousands of years piracetam hasnt ........ especialy in fit and healthy people . I wanna see studys about recreational / "nootropic" use of piracetam by healthy people over years and also in the in my opinion insane doses that some people advertise in their expensive books before i trust it . <------ key word = EXPENSIVE = people selling things ........ on the same level as the ever recuring waves of diaet books........ or the shit one can find in "esoteric" book shops ......... 2012 ...... nostradamus ...... bible and davinci codes .......

As for studys .....who paid for them ? What asociations have the people who make them with the people who would make $$$$$$$ from negative reports ? I`ve seen an "Extacy" study that was suposed to prove that it is unhealthy and wich was taken seriously by the main stream of doctors and policy makers ........ BUT ..... the studys were done on rats = not aplicable to humans ...... the results were compared to the effects of mescalin as a standard and those effects were judged by what rats did on high doses = some substance may agitate a rat but that doesnt mean the agitation was positive or negative or that the mental effects were the same . The study was also done with massive doses ...... and last but not least the fuckers never saw any extacy ....... they were given ...... METH ......

I also saw a study that someone got as degree for wich said that its better to drink alcohol when on extacy because the one makes warm and the other cold = balances the effects out .......... DUUUUUH !!!!!

Ginko trees have sexes . That means you must have anotherv tree very near you that polinated the one in your garden . The seeds from the ones in the park near me can STINK ..... dunno if thats "normal" ? or just if they are old / rotting or sick ?. As they drop loads of leaves its easy and dosent cost anything to test some ginko tea = the leaves .Have you tried it ? If not what about doing it and telling us what you think ?

As to the topic - more gray hairs - we're moving to the boonies. But, NEXT year let's see what I grow.  And gather from the wild...  Flowerdough has lots of fun plants but it's too freakin' hot dig em.

Kava has been proven innocent of the charges filed against it - some company made the mistake of creating an extract that included the leaves or something like that - I have the papers in my kava file.

You're going to see more nootropic kinds of things because they've finally figured out that inhibited neurogenesis is the key to a lot of illnesses like depression and ptsd.

Check out Epimedium for a nootropic with a bone-us  (mispelling intentional)

Salat

I cannot find any articles on the harmful effects of Gkingo  - I must be mistaken? Though I swear I read about an issue involved with it. Oh well.

Arundo Donax?


Mimosa Hostilis?

These guesses are in part based on my assumption that you are interested in DMT containing plants due to growing phalaris arudinacea, and that Passiflora incarnata has some MAOI type effects to it and those to above also contain the compound.

Are you sure? Ha That looks way to different from one another..

Well I give up.

I'm looking for a PDF of "The encyclopaedia of psychoactive plants" everywhere!!!

phragmite australis? I don't think it is that either...
Nor does it look like phalaris sp.
Pretty sure the two pictures I re-posted are different plants :/

Hm, I'm no good with grasses and the like really, not my area of expertise.