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What are you growing this year?
« on: May 11, 2009, 03:47:08 AM »
I thought this might be a fun topic to start, despite the feeling I get that very few people here actually grow plants. Hopefully a few do.

Anyways, what sort of plants do are you growing, or plan on growing this year?

Right now I have the seeds planted or the plants growing of..

Nicotiana Rustica = 3-9% nicotine (about to flower, wtf? Its only like 12 inches tall +/- a few inches)
Nicotiana Sylvestris = low levels of nicotine. Anyone know the concentration?
Nicotiana Tobacum  = 1-3% Nicotine
Ephedra Viridis = Mormon Tea" contains some sort of alkaloids that are stimulants/apatite suppressants.
Echinopsis pachanoi  = San pedro - contains mescaline
Ipomoea violacea = Heavenly blue morning glory = Nasty chemicals + lysergic acid amides.
Papaver Species of some sort  = some sort of isoquinoline alkaloids I believe?
Sida Cordifolia = .8 to 1.2% Ephedrine
Sassafras albidum = safrole and other aromatics in the root.
Ginkgo Biloba -  they're rumoured to work as nootropics.
Aesculus hippocastanum = Horse Chestnut = contains blood thining compounds that when in an acidic solution will fluoresce blue under UV light.
Delosperma nubigenum = contains MeO-DMT, DMT, and mesmeberine, as well as some salt of oxalic acid, or the acid itself. Mesmeberine is a potent SSRI.
Peganum Harmala = Syrian Rue = Contains Harmala Alkaloids which are MonoAmine Oxidase Inhibitors.
Datura Inoxia
Datura Wrightii
Datura Tatula

.. all of the datura are often called angels trumpet, thorn apple, jimsonweed, etc and contain atropine, scopolamine, and a few other little bizzare chemicals.
Phalaris Arundinacea = low levels of DMT with various toxic chemicals in it.
Hydrangea Sp. of some sort, contains cyanide.
Also I have a tomato plant growing, and planted some "giant bell peppers" as well as some dipper gourds, which seem like mother natures RBF w/ reflux condenser. :D
Lactuca Serriola = Opium lettuce/wild lettuce = contains the enkephalinase inhibitors lactucopicrin, and lactucin (maybe others) that have analgesic effects equal to or greater then ibuprofen if administered properly (according to the tail flick test on mice)

I am planning on also planting some of these plants:
Artemisia absinthium = thujone? used in that one alcoholic drink ;)
Mimosa hostilis = DMT
Desmanthus illinoensis = DMT
and the mescaline containing cacti:
Trichocereus bridgesii
Trichocereus pachanoi -- a few different strains
Trichocereus peruvianus
Trichocereus macrogonus

Verbascum thapsus - contains rotenone and coumarin. I think the indians used it to catch fish, and it is also smoked to help the lungs. Considering it has two toxic compounds in it, and generally smoke isn't good for you, I think this a bit strange that people still smoke it.
Hopefully I'll have near 100 of those, but It is hard to say since so far only 1 seed, out of the 50 San Pedro seeds I have planted has germinated. Hopefully it will live, and many more will sprout.

I hope I can get some more interesting seeds to plant, but I don't know what I'd grow really. I have spotted a Hops (Humulus lupus?) plant growing in someones yard, hopefully I can get a little clipping of it. I think it would be fun to have.

I think out of all of the plants, I want the Sida Cordifola to grow into some nice beautiful bushes 1.5 meters high and let off a lot of seeds! Boy that sounds like a neat plant.

Anyways, you guys growing anything? I hope so! It can be pretty fun and can have its benefits! ;)



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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 04:30:51 AM »
Some ones growing poppys around my area ;) It can't be me because my garden got weeded by my nieces  >:(. But I heard some crazy fuck was going around flinging seeds every where and watching the little bastereds pop up all over the place around here.

I got some cantaloupe growing also plus peppermint but I cant get rid of that if I tryed.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 09:27:58 PM »
Cool, if I had more space I'd grow some more of the food plants, but my garden space is very limited and most of my plants have to be kept in pots. Plus everyone in my house enjoys destroying stuff.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2009, 04:46:06 AM »
I now have 4 happy little San Pedro sprouts, and I've began fertilizing my tobacco with high nitrogen fertilizers since I feel they are sufficiently established and that the soil is high in potassium, calcium and various other nutrients. I just hope they get larger since the tiny little suckers are already in the flowering stage! That worries me, this year was supposed to be an awesome grow of tobacco.
I am sun curing a little bit, but it has a while to go before it will be of any use. :D
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2009, 05:22:00 PM »
Sassafras albidum - some small suckers in the garden, and few more i'm going to plant this year
Atropa belladonna - perennial in my garden, this would be the 3rd year and i think the rhizome is already big
Datura inoxia (going to soak seeds now)
Leonotis nepetifolia (probably, i have some old seeds and don't know if they will sprout)
Whitania somnifera (Ashwagandha, adaptogen and mild stimulant)
Yucca filamentosa - small, frost hardy yuccas

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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2009, 09:37:19 PM »
Interesting, I've never heard of Whitania somnifera, what chemical in it makes it a stimulant?

Atropa belladona is a really cool plant, I'd like to grow some of that eventually.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2009, 02:11:55 AM »
Turns out the soil I used last year has changed enough that it won't drain this year and it is causing some serious problems with my plants. How disappointing! Many are still doing good though, and I can always plant more.
Sida Cordifolia will not germinate, so that's a bitch I wanted that plant.

Here is a picture of one of the many Syrian rue plants I am growing. I am using cactus soil, and it seems to be working the best.

+ some datura inoxia I need to transplant that are between my tobacco.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2009, 07:04:36 PM »
Withania somnifera's (sorry, whitania is not correct spelling) pharmacology is not yet been studied enough i think. I could not find any information about the chemicals responsible for adaptogenic and stimulant effects, neither aboute those effects at all(in scientific articles). Though there is a plenty of info about its alkaloids in general, but it does not seem to interfere with information about traditional use in ayurveda.
Thus, in wiki it is only mentioned that its effects are  
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Pharmacological effects

Ashwagandha is reported to have anti-carcinogenic effects in animal and cell cultures by decreasing the expression of nuclear factor-kappaB, suppressing intercellular tumor necrosis factor, and potentiating apoptotic signalling in cancerous cell lines.[3]   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashwagandha

But if you google by words "withania somnifera ayurveda", you will find a pretty different info about its effects, and its use (for thousands of years). Wiki seems to deal only with scientific info, and there is very few of it..

Recently i sew its seeds outdoors, not germinated yet.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 04:20:31 AM »
Looks pretty interesting. Anti-Cancer things are always nice when you occasionally deal with carcinogenic material.

My Sida Cordifola seeds never germinated. What a bummer. Plants can some times be really hard to get from seeds.

I never really transplanted my datura, so they're suffering.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2009, 04:13:02 AM »
Since pictures are mildly fun here are just  some more pictures of some of my plants, mostly tobacco, some younger tobacco in the black pots, and  the small little things in the big green pots are sassafras trees, the plant in my hand is syrian rue/paganum harmala, and that is it.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2009, 12:46:13 PM »
some of my current grow results:
1,2 - sassafras sucker. already >60cm, not bad for 1st year seedling!
3 - sassafras seeds are sprouting in vermiculite
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4097/imgp5632.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5976/imgp5633.jpg
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 07:02:39 PM »
Wow very impressive little plants you've got there! How big of pots are they in? I'm sure the bigger the better. Do you plan on pruning them to keep them as a more bushy plant, or do you want them to grow tall and into a tree?

My last surviving sass is very slow growing and looks sickly, I can't figure out why and I think I've given him ideal conditions. He came from a twig, so he may just be trying to get a root system or something like that, but either way its pretty annoying. Snails or some other little critter keep munching him down so that probably plays a roll.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 07:03:25 PM »
Yes, you're quite right - the bigger(deeper) pot, the better growth. I grow it in a 1.2-1.3m plastic tube for toilet drain. If there is any frustration for roots going deep down, it slows in growth. I think it could grew even bigger if there were more oxygen in the lower parts of the drain, because when i screwed it in order to provide an access for air there, there was an odor of decay. I hope if i let air inside, it will continue to grow in the rate it was gowing last months.
I am cutting all side buttons and sprigs in order to leave only one direction for growth, in that particular plant. That is an experiment, but unfortunately i dont have what compare with(it is only one plant on the photos). Last years i had much poorer results, anyway.

Your sassafras seems to be suffering from the same desease i wrote about in some topic(help to acquire sassafras seeds or smth like that in acquisition). What soil is there where you planted it? How it looks like?  If it is ideal for gardening, it does not mean it is ideal for sassafras. My plants were also very sick on usual soil, and the leaves looked like attacked by snails or beetles, but all that is probably because of soil, on propper soil it would not have been attacked.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2009, 01:08:00 PM »
Well I need some advice. Once I get my N. Rustica seeds, what method shall I use to germinate? AS kids we got apple seeds, put in a yogurt pot of moss peat, and shoved em in the hot press till they germinated. Will this work for N. Rustica? And after that is it OK to grow it inside as a 'houseplant' until it gets big enough to plant outside in Spring (the winter would kill em).

Thanks for the advice.

Vesp: Am ordering more Atropa Belladonna as I type, will share the seeds :)

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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2009, 09:45:08 PM »
Another update, just for fun.

The plants in the picture should be obvious from other pictures I've posted and labeled except for picture 369. 369 is Sida Cordifola.
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2009, 10:33:28 AM »
I am currently growing Capsicum chinense (also called Madame Jeanette) and Capsicum frutescens (ordinary Thai chili peppers), not only because I love spicy and hot food, but also because I want to do some capsaicin (8-methyl-N-vanillyl-6-nonenamide) extractions.

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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2009, 07:08:03 PM »
Awesome, You can take the extract dissolve it in alcohol, and fill old axe bottles full of it.. making your own dangerously disguised pepper spray. Pressurizing it with butane afterwords is easy and allows it to spray out very easily.
I've used syringes to add the reagants to the axe spray bottles... of course this is off topic, but I figured I'd mention it.

There are certain things you can do to increase how hot the peppers are, I think exposing them to bacteria,water/lack of water, high nitrogen, and stuff like that can help but I am not to sure as I haven't read about this in a long time.

I was growing "giant bell peppers" but I forgot about them and they died. My tobacco and datura covered them up and I never saw them again.



 
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2009, 09:56:22 AM »
By the end of the season, my 1st year sassafras reached 110cm height (main stem), and total length of branches = 100cm.  This is quite good for 1st year plant!  But the outdoor sassafras suckers stopped vegeatating in july, despite it was a full sun (compared to semi-full in indoors). Maybe nights here are too cold for them..
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2009, 04:52:59 AM »
Interesting, got a pic? Mine didn't grow at all :(
Maybe inside it will be much better!  ;D
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Re: What are you growing this year?
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2009, 08:36:29 AM »
here it is: http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5453/sassyg.jpg
Yours did not grow probably because of transplantation/shipping stress or not proper soil and/or small pot. does wild sassafras grow in your area? if yes, then outdoor conditions should be fine. here is a native range where it grows http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/silvics_manual/Volume_2/sassafras/albidum.htm and obviously can be cultivated in same climatic zones throughout US.
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