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Re: BZP
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2010, 04:55:53 AM »
Except that benzyl bromide is a primary haloalkane while alpha-bromopropiophenone is secondary haloalkane. My doubt are based on the fact that Delépine reactions have very poor yields when it comes to dealing with secondary haloalkanes. However, piperazine is a significantly smaller molecule...

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Re: BZP
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2010, 06:48:21 AM »
wow this thread just asures me that i shouldnt buy fucking ne thing from ne one

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Re: BZP
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2010, 07:47:28 AM »
Only thing i really trust is weed to be honest.

At least with skunk, apart from that sprayed shite one can actually SEE that it is buds from a female cannabis plant, it stinks to high heaven, and it looks like what it is, if it doesn't look like it, it isn't, if it does look like it, it probably is.

Hash on the other hand...love it, but one has to make sure one buys good stuff, low grade soapbar is pure evil, and sadly, round here, its very existence makes all hash really unpopular, and thus hard to get hold of, nobody wants to risk smoking a bong full of motor oil, dog shit, rubber tyres and fingernail clippings bound together with a bit of hash, some glue and fucking gods only know what else.

At least here, locally coke tends to be cut with either sugars and/or local anaesthetics, rather than really toxic stuff, or 'phet, caffeine, ephedrine etc.

I read some of the stuff about the charlie yanks get when its low grade stuff, and cut with all sorts of stuff like caffeine, ephedrine, even yohimbine, or meth and think fucking christ, the idea of coke mixed with some peripherally active adrenergic shite, I would rather have no coke, than coke mixed with even a trace of ephedrine or its like.
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Re: BZP
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2010, 07:50:58 AM »
Can a N-benzylamine be debenzylated with Pd/C+H2, raney nickel/H2, etc?

Or is it only benzylic ethers or esters that can be reductively hydrogenated off?

Please, please tell me it can be deprotected that way, as that would make my sunifiram project go so much smoother, that way it could avoid having to fart around selectively forming a mono-amide at a single nitrogen, out of the two identical ones, just form one half of the amide starting from BZP, protect it, then debenzylate it in a fire extinguisher with Pd/C.

Would this work?
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Re: BZP
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2010, 10:06:00 AM »
There are a lot of ways to kill people, but lets stay on topic. I don't know how much I like discussion of killing people on this forum. The topics are already on questionable content.

Zinc Phosphide would be the professional consensus, it is already used for rodents, so ratus bipedicus shouldn't be a problem (and isn't).
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Re: BZP
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2010, 11:16:19 AM »
Personally I would prefer something that would never be tested for, such as Chironex toxin, massive dose of irukanji venom, monoclonal antibody raised against human mitochondria delivered by replication deficient virus, or something whos structure is entirely unknown, such as for example, chelonitoxin from the hawksbill sea turtle.

And Rattus Bipedalis is most certainly a problem, there are so many of the damnable things around here.
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Re: BZP
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2010, 11:41:08 AM »
Yeah, but the good thing about Zinc Phosphide is that it gives off phosphine after causing a rather painful demise for the original ingestor, one could take out a shitload of porcine bipedalis at the same time with good timing...
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