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Re: street mdma vs. pure mdma vs. pure mda
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2012, 07:33:55 PM »
I guess some people just like that tweaked out feeling more than the laidback awesomeness that is pure MDMA.  Fuck if I'll ever understand that one.  Then again if you've ever seen the Starbucks line on your morning commute it really should come as no surprise...  "Make that a triple espresso cafe lette!  And hurry, I need my morning fix bad."  Fucking tweakers everywhere!

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Re: street mdma vs. pure mdma vs. pure mda
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2012, 07:38:44 PM »
An anhydrous acetone was was performed on some brown, speedy mdma. People enjoyed the brown speedy stuff, but some thought it could be improved. The result of the wash was off-white mdma crystal and some dark brown goop that smelled strongly.  The off-white mdma was allegedly not nearly as enjoyable as it has been before the wash. Thought it was odd at the time, but it sounds consistent with all the other results.

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Re: street mdma vs. pure mdma vs. pure mda
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2012, 07:54:20 AM »
I find it suspect that all samples tested "near 100% pure".. I mean 80% pure is still "near" 100% is it not? Not to mention that kind of testing would be expensive as all fuck, and for what, kicks? Just to know? That and the OP just reading like a heavy user.. Makes me wonder if this thread isn't a huge troll. I don't know anyone who likes taking a bunch of E who also happens to get GC/MS analysis conducted on every single sample they ingest. Certainly the OP simply got some cutty E and liked it, I'm sure you aren't claiming to have tested EVERY batch of MDxx you've ever purchased OP?

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Re: street mdma vs. pure mdma vs. pure mda
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2012, 04:27:17 PM »
All pure mdma and mda samples were self made and was the second time i sent to analysis any sample.of course i do mdma and mda ,alone and mixed almost one time a month,sometimes twice,but never to go floor when i do,not more 300 mg night,much less with mda
   The samples from street mdma were chossed from like 5 diferent,choosed the samples that replay that effect i was used to talk about good street mdma..
    I have for example my first batch mda,made feom cyano reaction,and that mda was gassed on DCM,that batch compared to another made by extractind the mda from toluen and the evaporating the acid water,felt like completly diferent drugs,and both are mda.the first,gassed from dcm,it incredible mind altering,speedy as hell,but clear....the second batch extracted with acid water has incredible body load,it's relaxing a little,and very visual at low doses,and not as speedy.
   I have the 2 batches to test the diferences,so not related to mood when made or similar...i choose between that 2 batches actually in relation what kind of roll i prefer that day.i said that because experience seems tell much variables are involved on final stuff high
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jon

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Re: street mdma vs. pure mdma vs. pure mda
« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2012, 02:12:26 AM »
the dirty mda is'nt as speedy still it's fun  as hell.
i never bothered to purify my mda because it came out 95%+ straight from the soup never had to.

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Re: street mdma vs. pure mdma vs. pure mda
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2012, 02:43:23 PM »
Hi jon!nice to read you again!i missed you and others friends forum a lot this break i've donde past months.
  Well,about mda,i have no complains any batch,because more speedy more trippier  changes are minimal in comparison with great high i get allways,no matter a do it  too much often,mood,...allways it,s a crazy high ,like first mdma rolls!talking about that,if you have lost the magic on mdma,go cor mda...i fell on mda almost more empathy than killer doses mdma,but lots more energy,trippy conversations....tactil sensation are allways incredible...all that things mdma are supossed to give you but wear so quickly...
   Anyway,if i have complains with anything,it's from mdma(home made)
   I'm a very organized guy,so all batches i've done,all batches i reserved some grams,labelled the stuff,and choose the one i need that night in relation wh
at i want.
  For example,my last mdma batch,that was made wit
h pure methylamine,and cristallized by acid aquous extraction and evaporation...received complains rom my friends because all said lacked some love feeling,not much,....but be very speddy,talkative and clear....
I say that,because all my batches from mdma have very noticiable effects...not related to mood or lost of magic at all.
When a friends ask for the great loving feeling,i give it my fist mdma bactch:with nitromethane and gassed on toluene,on powdered form:that batch have the most incredible love power off all...nothing comparable....it's not extrange on that batch,all friends (boys and girls) at hour consumes,be involved on that esoteric mistic mdma fame:all people kissing(boys with boys,girls with girls,5 person at once...:)))))...and of course we are not gays/lesbian...:)))...but allways with that batch tend to that....And the effects are allways there,no matter!!...but it's a mdma that let you floored to maximum.all you want it's roll on the floor and benear people touching,talking....no energy at all!!!
  The next batches,....has been losting potency and love feeling across,in that relation,
      Mdma with impure methylamine and gassed:more speedier a little less love feeling,but great.
      Mdma with pure methylamine gassed:very similar,less love again.
      Mdma with Pure merhylamine and evaporated from acid solution:the weaker without doubt...about love,but increased energy,but not too much...that last seems you are completly sober and directly go to nistagmus and talking alone(not me),...
  The batches i have feom good street mdma,are like mixing the most loving one with the more speedy one...and are testd as only mdma....but all my friends get that result until today...killing love and killing energy!almost like 50/50 mdma/mda combo.....and repeat:doses are much less to get into that....i never weight the stuff when roll,but sure i know what are 100 mg,20mg,...and the 2 good samples o street i have,get that results on doses than the others almost you can feel to much...
Thats my experience,and thats what i see and experiment when i roll.and more important,...friends tell me the same,including some they think i get it on streets....
     Of course,75 % street mdma it's junk in comparison with made,but there are some ones there that are misterious wonderfull and potent!!and allways are that ones on pretty crystals from brown,Purple,to yellow...i never looked to powdered stuff because i know sure what i will get.
I think all i need it's possbility can access to an exhaustive analysis of the stuff,the one that can shown salt type,kind of fillers,and almost isomer ratios....with bargain analisys,i doubt they only look mdma % and if that's not poissoned.it's enough for them.

    I think i have to be the only one here that buy street stuff only to investigate!..
Finally:i don't know what shit i was consuming feom 2003 to 2006,but take that shit was like 12 hours of god love and tremendous energy until the end....i'm not from the meth zone,neither amphetamine zone much....was the glorius mdma crystal invasion ...i rolled 4 years,very very often,i never felt any magic lost....i can reproduce that high now with mda or mdma/mda,...impossible with mdma alone,...except that street samples that you can get looking well,very well....PeoPle claims that years where plenty of mdea too,and other stuff,...never consumed,but reports are like totally boring related to mdma.....i'm still doubting about mda that years,because i remeber lot highs with tremendous visuals and colours that shocked you when coming high...and then you get again other time the common mdma effect again...i can reproduce today perfectly in my mand those trippy highs,and are not to me overdosing mdma,reminda me perfectly mda fucking you on the beginning.
     Anyway,theres no mda on the streets here at all these days,...all it's mdma,so i still thinking the same......
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jon

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Re: street mdma vs. pure mdma vs. pure mda
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2012, 10:08:55 PM »
yeah i get offers for mda people want that shit.
60/40 mdma mda is perfect when mdma does'nt do the job anymore.
you can keep it rolling that way.
just like we do it at jon's tires and rim shop called X/O rims and tires, our motto is
"we keep you rolling"

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Re: street mdma vs. pure mdma vs. pure mda
« Reply #47 on: September 09, 2012, 06:07:06 PM »
i confess i´m little obsesed about that question,...but if you search the web,that inconsistency about mdma subjective effects on people it´s a well known discusion almost since begining mdma it´s on the streets.
   I was reading  a lot about that,allways i see some thread about "why mdma feels today more euphoric and next time more emphatic" i read it completly,...and there are tons out there,...and lot people sure that mood,excess on use,overdosing,administration ways,....multiple variable...al involved,...but not allways enough to explain completly the situation.
   Seems mdma one of the most inconstant drugs about results on the high,....if you look into others,like meth,coke,...stimulants mostly,...seems the experience it´s very much the same ...in resume...with mostly dopaminergic drugs,,the final high it´s very consistent,and the way of administration doesn´t play a huge role as can be with mdma. and other mostly serotonergic drugs.
    That article was a lot interesting to me:a guy,(on his words),with the same batch of high purity mdma,..made experiment of show effects mdma on him by the 5 ways possible:
Oral,snorted,smoked,rectal,and IV.
Clearly,effects and overall high changes from one way to another,....but if you read about other drugs,like meth or coke,...the high it´s way more consistent no matter you consume it ,snort it,...or inyect it,...possible intensity or high duration,...but never say.."wow,i shooted myself coke/meth and i very relaxed!).
5 Methods of Use
MDMA
by Juvvyyy
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=65224

Except smoking the freebase,or the hcl,..seems the way more quick the drug reach the blood system,and then the brain(not necesary),...the more dopaminergic and less serotoninergic the mdma works,....As quick as arrives to brain,more speedy and less empathic,....at levels the guy said shoot the mdma felt like almost shoot meth,about intensity,energy feeling withou empathy,...and very low lasting,...
  We now orally well,...common 50/50 effects about dop/ser......if we want a little more speed,..all know snort it will make that,...not experienced the rectal way,but sure will be near to the IV but not as heavy...The smoking way ,that seems mostly produces a more relaxing fell,it´s the only one that don´t follow that tendecy,...but who knows whats happens when you burn the mdma....
  Well,so to me,...the more quick the mdma richs the brain,...one get more speed,more clear high and less love,......more slowly,.....seems more serotonine flow and ,...more love and less energy...
 
   I think i was talking about on other thread time ago about complexity of the dopamine-serotonine system regulation.....I have not enough knowlegement on brain chemistry,....but i know,when a drug like mdma arrive to the brain,...the flow of dopamine and serotine are feedback regulated,...on a complex way, that not ever it´s clear,....and when you read mdma´s brain chemistry its one of the more complex and lacking of info about that system Dopa/Sero,...,one can understand that inconsistency on effects sometimes,....about administration way of course,...but most important,...about physic state of the mdma molecule,....salt,crystal form,more dirty or more cleaner...
  The article what about it´s that:it´s a study about what happens when you,for example,do a amphetamine like drug with a serotonine depletion,...what happens if you do coke and then mdma for example,...what happens if you do mdma and latelly coke/amphetamines,....(that´s explained with my words,..but sure it´s more complex and serious than that).....

Serotonin and dopamine system interactions in the reinforcing properties of psychostimulants: A research strategy
Manuel Tancer, M.D. and Charles R. Schuster, Ph.D.
Clinical Research Division on Substance Abuse
Department of Pyschiatry and Behavioral Neurosciences
Wayne State University School of Medicine

http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v07n3/07305tan.html

All i can see on that DOPA/SERO system and it´s regulation it´s to me is conected a lot with how fast the mdma arrives  the brain,.....and here I END AT WHAT WANTED FROM THE FIRST OF THE POST:
  What´s the relation between how the mdma it´s made and how fast will be arrive to the brain??i
  It´s not hard to think  that the more cleaner the stuff,....not solvent contaminants,,not impurities,not excipients added,....more dopaminergic will be the experince.....i don´t know how...but i think we wouldn´t oversee that the same mdma can work very different on the brain only about the structure, of we are eating/snorting/IV....