It's come to my attention that maybe some cats are behind the curve in sourcing procedures.

For one thing, if you aren't showing yourself to be a professional, you won't be treated as such.

1) Get yourself a business related domain name & hosting account (please, for fuck's sake, don't use godaddy).

2) Set up a relevant web page & contact page. This is not difficult with some HTML skill and I can whip both pages out in under an hour.

3) Create an email account under your domain that corresponds to your line of business, weather it be compounding, peptide research, green cleaners.... inquiries@whateverbusiness.com etc.

4) Find what you want in a country that has no US legal reciprocity. Inquire with a formal business letter and ask for chem name, CAS#, qty, grade and shipping to your door. You will find that companies in such countries are VERY accommodating to your shipping and descriptive needs... This is how legitimate business is done. Act like it.

5) Use a bullshit name with a real address.

6) Understand that if you use USPS, a postal inspector making a controlled delivery CANNOT WEAR A CARRIER'S UNIFORM! This is entrapment if they do.... Try to know your carrier on your route. I know who the PI is for my region. I've taken pictures of her. I made a profile for her under the agent section of whosarat.com as well as some local ICE agents for the PNW region. Beeware.

7) If you are staying on top of your tracking and your package gets "lost" for 24-48 hours, consider it lost. It will make it to your door, federal agent included with a postal inspector handing it to you, asking for a signature. If two days go by with no updates in tracking... DO NOT SIGN FOR IT!!!!!!!!!! Know when to cut your losses and move on.

Take it from someone that's done it right & wrong. Don't fuck up.

Might also want a FEIN number... Or something similar for the sake of purchasing as a business.

7) If you are staying on top of your tracking and your package gets "lost" for 24-48 hours, consider it lost. It will make it to your door, federal agent included with a postal inspector handing it to you, asking for a signature. If two days go by with no updates in tracking... DO NOT SIGN FOR IT!!!!!!!!!! Know when to cut your losses and move on.

Ain't that the fucking truth, so many people get caught out on that one. Have a set time frame in mind, if it is overdue by more than x% write it off. If it turns up some time after that, it is too fucking hot to even contemplate taking delivery of. When the time frame runs out, clean fucking house because if it does turn up (and that is not assured), you will have minutes (maybe hours but don't count on it) to wait before the bad guys turn up with a warrant.

Greed, unlike speed, actually does fucking kill. Greed coupled with stupidity is fairly common, so much so that LE expects it. Try really fucking hard not to have anything you cannot justify having (or anything that is illegal on its face) on the property or in your possession MOST of the time - LE also relies on stupidity and greed in this respect, two or more failed searches makes it fucking difficult for them to justify or show cause why they should get another warrant (or spend the money), it makes you a harder target. In order to be in front of the curve, you have to out think the opposition, do what they aren't trained to expect. Actually sticking to the game plan, when the alternative is to take stupid risks (albeit recovering losses and making money can be tempting), is what separates the good operation from the everyday. Calculate your risk profile and play the percentages, those who do are often unknown for extended periods, those who don't get time to consider the errors of their ways.

Personally, I regard purchasing anything that is listed as dangerous, stupidly dangerous. Then again, I've been visited often enough (over what turned out to be legal, albeit risky, ventures) not to regard it as something out of the ordinary. Know basic, simple shit - for example, in Oz if Customs opens a parcel they have to put a fluorescent green sticker on the parcel averting to that fact, ignore that fucker at your peril. Another one, if you are listed as conducting chemical research & development, try not to put your business address as a shed in an shitty industrial area. Attention to detail and not running up massive red flags are part of the job description

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNnrTNFWcsg

LMAO @ that vid!!!

Oh man, times have changed since I was a kid.

Main goal should be to learn chemistry at all its levels even the low, if you can make it don't buy it. They look for kits.... do not give them a reason to search because your package looks like a drug kit that would be stupid.

give the embezzler a break. he is not sure how many of these guides he has read over the years but ffs if you want to pretend to be a business then you need to prepare fucking answers about actually beeing a business.

who are your fucking customers? what is your USP? what is your Gross margin? what the fuck are you actually selling? How much does headed note paper cost? Who are your competitors?

yeah didnt think you knew 

None of this shit is mentioned above. If you want to be a business then there is a whole lot more to what you just read. It would take me all of 3 questions to talk past a bull shitter who was trying to buy chems.

Seddit ... voice of reason. No1uno... fair warning. But fuck sake most advice wouldnt last 1 innocent call nevermind a LE sting.

Still hearing PCP form piper nigrum......... still. 

still

I've been asked, during the course of legitamite business, most of those questions. No I wasn't asked about headed note paper but I can answer. I often have conversations about competitors, the state of the industry, new products or pricing structures etc. It is how the chem company sales people dig into their market?? Nothing sinister but if they think you are a company then thats the type of thing you need to be able converse about.

My point is if you want to appear to be a business then there is more to consider than how to not collect a diverted package. It is something that is never discussed and is a much more complete strategy for flying under the radar. If people believe your business then the supply houses will want to sell you more chemicals not less. simple. If a package is delayed then its probably more normal to call up and complain that your pilot plant is down and why shouln't you buy from their competitors etc? I would be very surprised if that is not exactly the type of thing that raises a flag, customer calls for an expedited and tracked package and doesnt get pissed if it is delayed

Am I talking about legitamite business? well IMHO you need to make everyone you deal with believe you are legitamite, even yourelf, if you want that to be successful. That is the title of the thread.

You are either appearing to be legitamite and above board or you are not. People talk on the phone to do business so you have to sound legitimate to be taken seriously by any company. Opening shelf company's to buy chems is not sustainable in this day and age.  It wont last, especially in the states, you cant do shopping in target without being tracked so you can forget chemicals in the long term. Sedit is correct here. Unless you convince some one you actually are legit.

How many reading this even bothered to look at the regulations in the CFR around buying precursors? I mean its not a secret... all public record. What you need to do to buy list 1 and 2 chemicals. Hell even a quick glance at the List 2 things tells you the government doesnt seriously intend keeping track of em. It is your delivery request patterns that will flag you.

In fact go read section 1310 now it tells you how to appear to be a legitimate business.

Oh, the postal inspector? Sure, done & done. Although my general location is no secret.