I've been using piracetam for about two weeks now and while I've noticed the effects, they are not as great as I've been hoping. I was wondering if anyone knew anything else to boost the effects of it, or possible some other chemicals to use with it that will create a good synergy
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I use it as well, but I can't feel any effects.
I even take a fairly high dosage.
I continue to take it though because it is supposed to be good for you.
Taking choline, and glutamine with it I believe are supposed to help, though I am not sure. Having a diet high in eggs will give you both of these I believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nootropics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nootropic
I even take a fairly high dosage.
I continue to take it though because it is supposed to be good for you.
Taking choline, and glutamine with it I believe are supposed to help, though I am not sure. Having a diet high in eggs will give you both of these I believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nootropics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nootropic
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I could see that being possible, being that the lethal dose of LSD is typically around 12mg. As a matter of fact, I have no doubt that above a certain limit of any psychedelic can cause permanent damage of some sort. Even long term continuous use. Hell, dissociatives cause olney's lesions which are physical holes in the brain tissue. Fortunately these will go away after abstaining from use of these. I also found this interesting:
Tests on rats indicate that 5-HT agonists like LSD and psilocybin prevent the neurotoxicity caused by NMDA receptor antagonists (dissociative hallucinogens).[13]
Tests on rats indicate that 5-HT agonists like LSD and psilocybin prevent the neurotoxicity caused by NMDA receptor antagonists (dissociative hallucinogens).[13]
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I was under the impression that olney's lesions where scar tissue in certine areas of the brain and that the damage they cause is irreversible.
I have a feeling what Agent is on about is the hypnotic properties of LSD and its ability to "Burn" specific behaviors into people that use it. I have personaly experianced this effect due to a stressful trip in public area that has taken years to reverse the anxiety thats causes in social situations. I hope to soon test this by taking Xanax and LSD in hopes of reversing this. Since LSD is not avalible I will have to suffice with Mushrooms I believe. If my theorys are correct I will experiance a "Natural" prolonged xanax "high".
I have a feeling what Agent is on about is the hypnotic properties of LSD and its ability to "Burn" specific behaviors into people that use it. I have personaly experianced this effect due to a stressful trip in public area that has taken years to reverse the anxiety thats causes in social situations. I hope to soon test this by taking Xanax and LSD in hopes of reversing this. Since LSD is not avalible I will have to suffice with Mushrooms I believe. If my theorys are correct I will experiance a "Natural" prolonged xanax "high".
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aniracetam is supposed to be more lipohilc and do a beeter job
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aniracetam has greater lipophilicity enhances potency from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniracetam
also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racetam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniracetam
also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racetam
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I've been able to find acetylcarnitine and DMAE OTC in my area. I never tried hydergine, but would be interested in trying it. I haven't seen it in any stores in my area.
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I've heard good things about aniracetam but i'd just like to give piracetam my seal of approval.
It definately helps with short term and long term memory, focus, attention and retention. You'll get more done.
Clinically, its been proven, with the most highly benefiting group being dylsexic children. Since I am or was a dyslexic child, I have to say I feel like it helps alot.
Watch out for the anxious feeling that you might incurr though a week or so of using it, i'd reccomend some blue lotus hash to counteract that. lovely stuff.
Vesp: I find 1000mg daily with phosophatidyl choline (not cheap) really does work. I've taken up to 2500mg though, at those high doses it becomes kind of uncomfortable, a continual high frequency tweeting in the brain. Try getting yourself on a choline supplement and see if that makes any difference. IIRC when i first started taking it, without the choline supplement it did next to nothing.
also, piracetam needs to buid up in the brain for a few days before it works fully. But once it is working, its anti-aging for the neurons, anti-oxidant, blocks alcohol from oxidizing the neurons (you won't feel even 1/2 as hung over if your drinking) and reverses previous damage done by GABA agonists.
also, make sure that you get some decently buffered pills/capsules, the first batch I bought from ebay had some bulking agent which my stomach didn't really agree with, gave me indigestion/heartburn type sensation. So I switched to 'geratam' which go down a lot easier and cause no discomfort whatsoever.
It definately helps with short term and long term memory, focus, attention and retention. You'll get more done.
Clinically, its been proven, with the most highly benefiting group being dylsexic children. Since I am or was a dyslexic child, I have to say I feel like it helps alot.
Watch out for the anxious feeling that you might incurr though a week or so of using it, i'd reccomend some blue lotus hash to counteract that. lovely stuff.
Vesp: I find 1000mg daily with phosophatidyl choline (not cheap) really does work. I've taken up to 2500mg though, at those high doses it becomes kind of uncomfortable, a continual high frequency tweeting in the brain. Try getting yourself on a choline supplement and see if that makes any difference. IIRC when i first started taking it, without the choline supplement it did next to nothing.
also, piracetam needs to buid up in the brain for a few days before it works fully. But once it is working, its anti-aging for the neurons, anti-oxidant, blocks alcohol from oxidizing the neurons (you won't feel even 1/2 as hung over if your drinking) and reverses previous damage done by GABA agonists.
also, make sure that you get some decently buffered pills/capsules, the first batch I bought from ebay had some bulking agent which my stomach didn't really agree with, gave me indigestion/heartburn type sensation. So I switched to 'geratam' which go down a lot easier and cause no discomfort whatsoever.
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I like Noopept
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A link for those who have not heard of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noopept
Wow, it claims to be 1000 times more potent then piracetam? Is it easy to get? I've only seen piracetam really on the markets.
Wow, it claims to be 1000 times more potent then piracetam? Is it easy to get? I've only seen piracetam really on the markets.
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http://www.pharmacy1010.com/product_page.asp?id=1724
Some weird things happen when I've taken it with other drugs (especially ethanol). A word of caution: start low and work up to the right dose. I think it takes a while for the plasma concentration to build up. Use as directed, then make adjustments a few weeks after you've started it.
Some weird things happen when I've taken it with other drugs (especially ethanol). A word of caution: start low and work up to the right dose. I think it takes a while for the plasma concentration to build up. Use as directed, then make adjustments a few weeks after you've started it.
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Just some papers about nootropics. DM 235 is very potent compound, also it looks easy to make it, if you have source of piperazine.
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sounds interesting this "noopept"
what kinds of doses are you taking enkidu?
what kinds of doses are you taking enkidu?
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I was taking up to 30 mg daily (three 10 mg pills).
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Sedit, my friend took 6mg alprazolam and then 2 hits of lsd and was stuck in a loop but didn't know it because his short term memory was completely thrown off from the combination. He had even forgotten that he had taken lsd and would occasionally ask why he was feeling so strange but then forget about it and go through another mind loop. It didn't do anything to prolong the effects of the xanax in him.
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i dunno know how that's relavent.
aniracetam is the best nootropic, in the racetam family.
25 bucks a bottle ebay for 90 \
want to know more ask
i've personnally tried it
aniracetam is the best nootropic, in the racetam family.
25 bucks a bottle ebay for 90 \
want to know more ask
i've personnally tried it
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ok seeming you offered ......whats it like? what type of 'effect' does it have on you jonmon?
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What is the comparison between aniracetam and oxyracetam? I have heard oxyracetam is better than piracetam though.
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Has anyone figured out the mechanism behind piracetam's extreme potentiation of MDxA? I've always been slightly worried that it might act as a weak MAOI...
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I have tried piracetam and it helped with my cognitive issues, namely pronounced executive dysfunction and memory loss, now I take aniracetam instead and I find it far more effective, I use around 5g a day.