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450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« on: November 28, 2010, 04:22:16 AM »
Age: 22

Weight: 175 pounds

Dosage of chemical x: 450mg MDA Hydrochloride


Desired effects: Euphoria, different mindset
Intensity: STRONG!

Source: Homemade...Otherwise I wouldn't trust it

Background: Tried almost everything...

 
Experience: There is nothing like MDA! While I don't like MDMA at all(MDMA makes me sleepy)... MDA gives me everything I've ever searched in a psychadelic drug. It's hallucinogenic, euphoric and energetic. Music is simply awesome while on MDA. It's by far my favorite molecule! ;D
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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 07:01:39 PM »
i like it too i think mdma is just mda's little sister mda is go go go !!!!
like being shot out of a cannon.
i like it because i don't get too friendly on it that can be a liability in this world
the best thing is sensory enhancement i would do a gram of mda and after the speed part subsided there was this second phase to the drug where you just curl up in bed with the "ohh awww's!!!" that's the best aspect of high dose mda.
try a hottub when you get all tingly nothing comes close to that.
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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 09:50:26 PM »
I hallucinated for 28 hours after my last dose one time I did it before the 450mg try. I did a stupidly high amount (Didn't remember I was doing one). I never had LSD in my life, but I can tell you hallucinations (Audio and visuals), never have been more intense with another drug. I didn't even imagine that MDA could be SO hallucinogenic. Like you, I like the part I don't get too friendly as with MDMA, which actually piss me off quite a bit sometimes. I shall try the hot tub idea sometimes. :D

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 06:37:31 PM »
try a hottub when you get all tingly nothing comes close to that.

You might want to keep an eye on your temperature when doing this ;)

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 07:38:29 PM »
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You might want to keep an eye on your temperature when doing this Wink

Mighty fine advice. Most toxicity demonstrated in animal models that I have seen reported was as a result of hyperthermia.


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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 07:57:36 PM »
I think I might have abused on MDxx this weekend...I'm not able to fall asleep, even 2 days after...I'm maybe falling asleep, but not for longer than 15 minutes, and I'm not dreaming at all...I always noticed MDxx greatly affect sleep (I suppose serotonin is important in sleep regulation)...I can fall asleep on MDMA, but I never dream. I normally can't sleep for 24 hours when I indulge into MDA though...

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 08:04:31 PM »
Depletion of Serotonin would certainly do that to you. Make sure not to press on further for a while or Dopamine will have its wicked way with you untamed.

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 08:06:35 PM »
Sounds like a good advice to take ;D

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 08:46:20 PM »
I dont think she will mind me posting this here since it was a public post anyways but Methyl_Ethyl posted this on WD (now the_collective) which may give some insight into what happens if you run out of serotonin. I have quoted in its entirety for the sake of context only.

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Yeah, I have spent a good deal of time exploring the depths of drug induced seizure activity.

Although bupropion never scared me too much, it allowed me play around with some serious lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis activities, not to mention hypnagogic hallucinations.  In fact the entire time I was on bupropion I could have complex geometric open eye visuals any time I was in a completely dark room or surrounded by predominantly light backgrounds or surfaces, like in the shower or looking up from bed at a white ceiling.

Concomitant use of modafinil and bupropion makes bedtime even more fun.  Modafinil's half life is around 10-12 hours, I have found that right around bedtime when modafinil concentrations are at their lowest along with a lowered seizure threshold from bupropion one can actually experience narcolepsy like symptoms (falling directly into REM sleep).  I have many memories of laying in bed with my boyfriend having a conversation about something and the next second nodding directly in to REM sleep for a few seconds, when asked "are you listening to me" this would bring me from the deep dream attained in a matter of seconds and I would respond "yes the pigs look fine and the spaceship is ready for landing" or something tied into my dream.  Absolutely fucked I have to say, (experiencing narcolepsy)   

It sounds like you may have experienced on bupropion what I experienced after my first MDMA binge.  There are no words to describe the sleep disturbances that arise when the dopaminergic inhibitory neurotransmitter serotonin is completely exhausted from ones brain.

When this state occurs certain dopaminergic and noradrenergic systems have a fucking field day and without their inhibitory friend serotonin to keep them in check shit gets really dark, really, really fucking dark.

You know you need to sleep but you also know that in order to get there you have to break through some of life's most impossible boundaries, the minute you reach REM a flash of light and sound explodes through the inner most reaches of your brain and radiates to all extremities, thus waking you up, quite often you must endure this 15-20 times until you are strong enough to ride it out, and only then if you make it through the massive explosion of seizure activity at the gates of REM you then have to endure the feeling of falling perilously throughout the darkness, you know you must not wake up or else you have to endure the entire process again.  Every single time I experienced this "falling sensation" I would dissociate and in another dimension see myself finally fall off the side of the bed, hit the floor and proceed to full blown tonic clonic seizures.

If you finally make it through the perilous falling sensations then and only then are you allowed to dream, and dream you do, the most vivid, horrifying, darkest, dreams ever imaginable.  There are absolutely no words to describe the dreams that will ensue, none whatsoever, not the scariest movie, not the thoughts of the most fucked up disturbed individual that ever lived, one thing is for sure memories come and go but the memories of the dreams that you experience in such a state will be burned into your mind like a brand for the rest of your life.  They will always be there just like yesterday, the clarity, the sights, the smells, the fucking horror.

Enough about that...

Another thing I have found experimentally but have not found much documentation in the literature is that my seizure threshold is a hell of lot lower when I try to sleep on my back.  In fact all lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis experiments could only take place whilst laying on my back.  I have heard from a great many of others also that this is the case, especially accounts of sleep paralysis and folks stating they can't sleep on their back or else they get "stuck".  I feel there is a statistically significant population that experiences this and thus I hope someone can explore this further in a clinical setting.

Its all seizure related and all very very interesting.

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 08:55:50 PM »
I dont think she will mind me posting this here since it was a public post anyways but Methyl_Ethyl posted this on WD (now the_collective) which may give some insight into what happens if you run out of serotonin. I have quoted in its entirety for the sake of context only.



Woah, thanks Embezzler...This is a really interesting read. I remember in my earlier days, when I really binged on MDxx, that I would sometime get a shock through my whole body just before falling asleep.  I think I'll take a small break from MDxx before it bad...





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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 09:06:33 PM »
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shock through my whole body just before falling asleep


These are known as Hypnic jerks. From my reading I believe they originate in the nervous system and (do feel free to correct me if I am wrong) mainly the PNS. They can be eliminated by slight Skeletal muscular movements.

I imagine bruxism would interfere with these but that is unproved speculation on my part.

I get em all the time. Perfectly normal


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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 09:10:36 PM »
Thanks, it's good to know...I shall read a bit about it :D

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 09:21:47 PM »
It seems like supplementing tryptophan might help things along, but that's pure speculation.

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Based upon IC50 values, L-tryptophan increased the potency of MDMA by approximately 3-fold

That doesn't sound so good, but it continues to suggest that may happen because more serotonin is available to release, which seems to suggest that taking it afterward might help jump start the production process.

http://www.mdma.net/l-tryptophan/index.html
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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 09:24:46 PM »
Yeah I shall but some soon...I'd imagine for now the best is to stay away from MDxx...Anyway I'm out of MDA and I do't really like MDMA, so It's solving the problem for now ;D

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2010, 03:02:40 AM »
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shock through my whole body just before falling asleep


These are known as Hypnic jerks. From my reading I believe they originate in the nervous system and (do feel free to correct me if I am wrong) mainly the PNS. They can be eliminated by slight Skeletal muscular movements.

I imagine bruxism would interfere with these but that is unproved speculation on my part.

I get em all the time. Perfectly normal


I hope

Embezzler PM me with any information pertaining to these you might have if you may since I have been SUFFERING from them for about 3 years now from a perscription of Lexapro. I haver trouble sleeping because of it and as a side result I have been loosing focus and memory. Atlest I hope its a side effect from lack of sleep.


PS:http://www.mdma.net/l-tryptophan/index.html
Is this a clone of lilyths(sp?)pages or am i mistaken?
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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2010, 12:22:59 PM »
Whoa what an awful awful night...When I can FINALLY fall asleep after bypassing the hypnic jerk, I get awfuls nightmares, audio/visuals hallucinations and sleep paralysis...Can't sleep more than 30-60minutes at a time...Shall defitly stay away from MDxx for a while...I knew I pushed the limits a bit though ;)

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Re: 450mg Methylenedioxyamphetamine Hydrochloride
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2010, 02:48:27 AM »
that's what those serotenergic antidepressants do to you when you withdrawal you get shocks it's a lack of serotonin or downregulation of the receptors as when you stop taking ssri's

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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2010, 03:30:30 AM »
Seriously it's getting weird...I took a nap this afternoon, and according to wikipedia's description, I seems to be lucid dreaming. I got all those symptoms:

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# The pain test—"Pinch me, I think I'm dreaming!"—is only effective in very few dreams. Stephen LaBerge's book Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming proves that dreamed action produces real effects on the brain and body. Therefore, if the dreamer pinches his or herself, he or she indeed feels pain but it is unlikely to induce lucidity, because the schema for pain in the dreamer's brain activates and the dreamer feels pain even if there is no real physical stimulus. This same logic applies for other sensations, such as pleasure, heat, cold and a variety of other feelings the dreamer could experience in the waking world.[31]
# Looking at text or one's digital watch (remembering the words or the time), looking away, and looking back. The text or time will probably have changed randomly and radically at the second glance or contain strange letters and characters. (Analog watches do not usually change in dreams, while text and digital watches have a great tendency to do so.) A digital watch or clock may feature strange characters or the numbers all out of order.
# Flipping a light switch. Light levels rarely change as a result of the switch flipping in dreams
# Looking into a mirror; in dreams, reflections from a mirror often appear to be blurred, distorted, incorrect, or frightening.
# Looking at the ground beneath one's feet or at one's hands. If one does this within a dream the difference in appearance of the ground or one's hands from the normal waking state is often enough to alert the conscious to the dream state





It's not too bad (almost interesting actually), but at night, I'm getting awful sleep paralysis, which is quite frightening...Hope it will be better tonight...I hope the 5-htp will helps...I sure won't binge on MDxx for a while though ;) Never happened to me before

OMFG I would never use SSRI...

EDIT: I know it's a vague question, but anybody with previous experiences with SSRI use /MDxx abuse have an idea how long that shit can lasts?
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2010, 04:05:42 AM »
From SSRI's it has not stopped in over three years although it has become much less intense. MDA will start it back up as will weed and sadly my last remaining hope before SSRI use xanax. Comming off of even a small amount of xanax will now in some instances send me into siezures.  :-\ If I could sue the fuckers for telling me it would be alright I would......
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2010, 05:55:15 AM »
they never tell you they are about to ruin you life with a pen and a script pad.
how would they remain profitable???
they just smile because at the end of the day they can bill for 40 patients and just cleared 2 grand.