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« Reply #100 on: June 18, 2011, 03:51:04 AM »
I don't know if even in its own thread if political discussion should be had. Its like religion, veganism or global warming, you can not speak about it without someone getting pissed off sooner or later.'

 yeah,, good point
   
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« Reply #101 on: June 18, 2011, 04:10:51 AM »
I got one. How come, just for shits and giggles and to piss off the government, has no one found a route to mdma starting with stryofoam cups?
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« Reply #102 on: June 18, 2011, 06:30:58 AM »
Because making N-methyl-amphetamine out of Styrofoam cups would be a much simpler task.
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You pissed off the wasp now enough is enough!!!

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« Reply #103 on: June 18, 2011, 02:44:21 PM »
I have a picture of a house to show you, a house of love and comfort, look at your molecules man, if you want to progress you need to look at molecules, start with MDMA then MDA you come back and explain the differece, please.

Then look at methylampetamine, and amphetamine and come back.

then Mehtylamphetamine difference to METHYLENEDIOXY Methamphetamine.. aka MDMA

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« Reply #104 on: June 18, 2011, 02:59:51 PM »
"a house of love and comfort"

 GO Hard Bro,,I wanna live wit your house ;-)
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« Reply #105 on: June 18, 2011, 04:16:48 PM »
Shake, I do look at my molecules a lot. I like to try to imagine why they are changed the way they are. I do see the differences and after more reading about functional groups I will be able to easily spot and know the differences. I can spot them now, but knowing instantly which functional group has been added or removed is something I havn't gotten to yet. I'll get there, you guys just have to be patient with me. Until I move it's gonna be hard to focus lol.
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« Reply #106 on: June 18, 2011, 04:37:40 PM »
all righty here it goes.

thermal cracking of polystyrene too styrene
then we shall go via dimsyl (for sedit) too propenyl benzene.
perfomic too P2P then amalgum with methylamine too methamphetamine
bromination at the 4 position with persulfate and KBr in methanol
caustic hydrolisis too 4 hydroxyl amphet.
iodonation of the 3 postion
caustic hydrolisis too 3, 4 hydroxyl amphet
methyleneation with DCM in DMSO to get MDMA.

cant wait to see the pics hehe.

good luck your going to need it.
shes all OTC as well hehe.

cant see why it would not work just that its a waist of time.

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« Reply #107 on: June 18, 2011, 06:56:46 PM »
That would be a purely 'just because' synth. At first I thought about cigarette butts, but they don't make them from polystyrene anymore.
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« Reply #108 on: June 18, 2011, 10:32:10 PM »
I saw styrene for sale at the store that sells stuff for fiberglass work on boats and such.

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« Reply #109 on: June 18, 2011, 11:01:26 PM »
You should go buy it. I can't find any anywhere now. You may not even have plans for it, but having something they don't sell anymore is just awesome sauce :D
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« Reply #110 on: June 19, 2011, 12:59:22 AM »
I didn't know if it was interesting or not when I saw it and my budget was maxed out buying 99% IPA, but next trip over I'll get some.  Looks like a nice starting block.

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« Reply #111 on: June 19, 2011, 01:18:37 AM »
Wow, you have somewhere you can walk in and buy 99% ipa? That would be awesome.
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« Reply #112 on: June 20, 2011, 08:48:12 AM »
     "I can spot them now, but knowing instantly which functional group has been added or removed is something I havn't gotten to yet. I'll get there, you guys just have to be patient with me."

  Dont worry amigo, that statement covers Lots of Us :P

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  Ur brother re; Suffering caused by motorcycle accidents!!!.....Hyppy ;)
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« Reply #113 on: June 20, 2011, 08:50:02 AM »
Didn't want to start a new thread, so here is my dumb question:  On The-Collective forum, which I know some members here are regulars (even moderators), what get unlocked once you gets to 25 posts ?? I don't feel like posting uselessly unless I actually know if it's worth it or not...

Thanks! 8)

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« Reply #114 on: June 20, 2011, 11:43:52 AM »
Quote from: hypnos on June 20, 2011, 08:48:12 AM
     "I can spot them now, but knowing instantly which functional group has been added or removed is something I havn't gotten to yet. I'll get there, you guys just have to be patient with me."

  Dont worry amigo, that statement covers Lots of Us :P

  Peace Love and Freedom from All and Any Pain 8)

  Ur brother re; Suffering caused by motorcycle accidents!!!.....Hyppy ;)
What occurs to me about chemistry, is the absence of latin terminology. That tells me it's hard enough already, no need to obscure otherwise simple things in a long forgotten language. The medical profession does this because, to be honest, it's not that difficult a subject to learn. In order to keep those who pay for that education separate from those who may just pick it up, they use lots and lots of latin. You don't see this in chemistry. The language you must learn in chemistry is essential to being able to discuss it, unlike medical jargon which is meant to obscure and confuse. So, I would assume I am not alone here lol. Still, even the most remedial of you here are well beyond me at this point.

As for people who have been beaten half to death with a motorcycle, I suppose we do have some kinship. Especially those of us who continue to ride. Of all the people in my life, family and friends alike, my mother is the only one who has not given me a hard time about wanting to get my bike fixed and get back on it. She is the only one who seems to understand that for one, I am not easily frightened and two, everyone who rides for any real amount of time will have an accident, I got mine out of the way is all :D

I feel bad for TLS having to take tramadol for pain, but atleast he has something. I don't think I could function very well without the boatload of hydrocodone I get every month. I know I would not be working 70-90 hours a week. One of the things I really look forward to trying when I get moved is the synthesis of chloromorphide. I hate having to go suck dick every month just to get my pain pills and to make things worse I know have to piss in a cup. I desperately want to provide myself with my own medication and fuck those assholes that dangle my medication in my face and want me to do tricks for it. As I said before, my doctor isn't that bad, relatively speaking, but he still has issues.

Anyway, enough rambling. I had a really good stupid question come to me last night while I lie in bed, but I can't remember it now.
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« Reply #115 on: June 21, 2011, 01:21:35 AM »
  Matey I can FULLY relate to wanting to get back on your/a bike again--your mum sounds Very Cool 8)

 I had "The three Accidents" that had Always 'worried me',,  :-\

E.g.
   1)-- someone going through a stop sign :o, I was only doing 30-40kmh+I was young and fit, and I went 'Over the Top of the car',, not INTO it, I landed on the other side, on 'all four' i.e a crawling position--kneedless to say, I had fuckin sore knees, which took me about 4 yrs before I could kneel without it hurting

2)--I was doing a right turn(a left if you're in d US/Europe) from a main rd into a side street, had JUST let off the brakes (slowing from about 90-100kmh down to about 50-60kmh) and as I 'tossed my bike into the turn',,A Fuckwit,,in a V8 panel van, (with his mates 'pissing on' in the back of said van and his girl in the front) had decided to "play chasey with the bike" and just as I turned, he tried to OVERTAKE ME,,resulting in me getting the BIGGEST,HARDEST, Kick in the arse, I had EVER had.....I landed about 50mts PAST the street I was turning into
and although nothing was 'Broken' (bones etc) I was pretty battered up, and this was the Beginning of my Pain problems, leading to 1 back operation,and another coming soon. >:( :(

3) An off duty cop did an Illegal U-turn in front of me-I had nowhere to go,but straight into the side of him! (AT 80-90KMH!)   I landed on my head (so i was told,I had been knocked out by doing so I imagine) my helmet looked like a smashed eggshell but my head was fine--the rest of me was a bit sore--BOTH vehicles were "write offs" :o

  These were the 3 scenarios I had ALWAYS been worried about--hitting cars at speed,
  is, IMO, Very dangerous, and painful.. ::) duh!

 I still love bikes and still ride,,(BUT not in the City as a mode of transport), well, only to get to the country roads for a relaxing fang around the hills. coz there are Far Too Many FUCKWITS with cars, and IME,, they Are, The Main Problem!

   Falling off, even at high speed isnt that bad--Its "stopping Quickly" via a Hard object,, that CAN REALLY CHANGE the ways your life was/is/will be! ???

 As for the Latin, man, there are Enough 'synonyms' in Org.Chemistry to fuck with even the "smartest heads" !!! Faaark GAA has at least 4!! and I'm sure I've seen 5-6 for other chems--and then there's the EU,US and UK, Arabic and "Russian" etc 'variations!!

 Shit, its enough to make one WANT to take drugs, and hope 'it all comes clean in the wash!

 Cheers bro,  Hyppy 8)

 P.s How 'restricted' is your movement, with those 'steel bars/bands' in your back?\


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« Reply #116 on: June 21, 2011, 01:31:57 AM »
Not very much at all, actually. I could not move my left arm for several months, it was basically paralyzed, no feeling etc. But, it works again. I really don't have any lose in my range of motion, it's just lifting stuff and moving too fast. It burns like fire if I try to lift anything or if I turn to fast.

Considering what they had to do, they did a pretty good job. I'm pretty normal looking, but I hurt all the time and have to be careful what I do. I can definitely tell I have metal back there.
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« Reply #117 on: June 21, 2011, 03:40:04 AM »
Btw, matey, as for the pain, I would go so far as to suggest tramal IS a very good analgesic,,(but its SSRI properties fuck with my head,cant get to sleep,,my hands tremor--symptoms of Seretonin syndrome,, :'( at 200mg+doses) I took it for about 5 years, and it Helped heaps---(The "Neuropathic Pain" was/is, Another Story , altogether!)
  I would suggest you try it, together 'with' your current pain meds--Obviously talk to your Dr/s  FIRST!! and seek their advice, ::)
 If 100mgs twice a day, or less helps you, without the "weird side effects",,
I'd go for it,, hey, All the Best, with Everything!!! :)
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« Reply #118 on: June 21, 2011, 03:46:23 AM »
hey Vesp, you know i hate to go "off topic" ::) ::) but,, Just out of curiousity,," :P

 "Why Did you start this site?" ???

 Any revelations, or even 'insights? :o :P ;D 8)

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« Reply #119 on: June 21, 2011, 10:38:41 AM »
I get tramadol too and I give them away. They don't really help me that much.
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