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stonium

Joined: 01 May 2005
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Sun May 15, 2005 4:23 am
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I received word yesterday that the Hive server has now been acquired and will probably be online for configuration next week. The main network connection will then be established in about two weeks.

So...with a little luck, we should be back up and running in about a month.

Yee Haw,
Stoni
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fan of zwitterion

Joined: 05 Feb 2005
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Sun May 15, 2005 6:11 am
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No offence Stonium, but these rumours have been circulating for months now,
Considering Strike is in Jail and Rhodium, has pursued other interests,
I feel that this propably won't happen,

Even if a hive does open, it will not be run by the previous members,
and therefore will not probably be the hive, like we knew it,

Those of us that know Rhodium, know that this is the truth,
But if they do come back, I hope that they follow in the footsteps of synthetikal.com, by giving all members equal participation, and downloads of all resources for all members


Anyway, just for the record, I am very happy here, and for me, this is the new hive,
So much is happening here,
I reckon in a years time, this place will have more to offer, but that is just my opinion, if synthetikal has regrouped almost 1000 members in 3 months, I look forward to sticking with these guys, thankyou very much

fan of zwitterion
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stonium

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Sun May 15, 2005 6:46 am
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I take no offense to your comments. I am simply sharing the word that was shared with me. You are entitled to your beliefs and feelings, whatever they may be.


"Those of us that know Rhodium, know that this is the truth"
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I have known Rhodium personally for quite some time and much of what you seem to be saying here isn't ringing true to me.
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Guest

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Sun May 15, 2005 7:17 am
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Fan of Zwitterion, what do you base your knowledge on, If I may enquire?


They are kind words, but there is enough room for all of us,
Look at erowid for example,
If you wanted my honest opinion, I think that all these sites, need each other, and the apparent competition only makes these places richer,

Alot has gone under the bridge since the hive, the amount of places that have opened to fill this niche, is astounding,
I think what really is important, is security, and back-ups, so these sites never go down,
As being a member myself, I hate to see places go through instability,

Hey, I'm Biased, but also very proud of what has been achieved here, in such a short time,

Anyway, hobbiest chemistry has never been healthier!


Syn
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thenewrunne
Chemically Balanced
Joined: 26 Mar 2005
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Sun May 15, 2005 7:28 am
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I hope the Hive comes back. It was a great place, I hope it returns to it's former glory.

That being said, we must learn a lesson from all of this: distributed information, distributed power.
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thenewrunne
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Sun May 15, 2005 7:42 am
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Whoops.. hit send too soon.

Also to say:

I will be on both sites. There is definatley MORE than enough room for both sites.

We've already seen a different flavour between the two sites:

1) There is a focus on amphetamine here rather than methedrine - that's nice.
2) There is a focus on 2CB* chemicals.
3) There are new reactions that were not on the Hive, especially the recent electrochem experiement (thanks bumblebee!)


Long live the Hive and Synthetikal!
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MargaretThatcher

Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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Tue May 17, 2005 4:10 am
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You should be flattered that this was posted here: this is obviously the main competitor to what will be The Hive.

The main problems with The Hive were egotism, arrogance and foul manners. The main problem with Synthetikal is security - it needs to be located outside the fascist theocracy known as the USA asap. I think a little reassurance will bring more people.
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jackoozzi
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Joined: 10 Feb 2005
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Tue May 17, 2005 4:51 am
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Its not a competition there is plenty of room for everyone
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primathon
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Joined: 23 Mar 2005
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Tue May 17, 2005 9:58 am
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I have so been waiting for this...

<fingers crossed>

aaaaahhhhh..... home again.....
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loki
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Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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Tue May 17, 2005 1:13 pm
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if i may just add a comment - i agree about the thing of egotism at the hive... and i don't personally think that it is in any way better to talk about methedrine vs benzedrine. imho, benzedrine sucks, it gives me a very nasty shortness of breath, give me the former any day... and 2cb... is crap. but imho, so is mdma... and having at last educated myself on the history of the hive, i now understand why it seemed so bent towards mdma lol...

i personally like this place, i don't see any point in resurrecting the hive, other than to get the whole mass of data back into a form that can be distributed. the hive was a good bbs for certain things, and i do feel that the 'karma' system it had was good... but let's face it. all the tweakers went to wet dreams.

here we have everyone else who wasn't so much focussed on the famous two amphetamines but with a more general interest and a focus on innovation. suits me to a tee. and the openness is a good thing. I liked the karma thing only because I felt that the hive suffered from spam from nutters. Something similar to reduce the desire to post garbage in non garbage forums wouldn't be a bad idea... really it's just a temporary ban.

anyways, ONWARD HOBBY PSYCHOACTIVE CHEMISTRY HEADS! i don't really care what happens, so long as something is happening. for me this is all about driving the whole thing forwards faster, the faster it gets, the sooner it ends (the WoD that is)
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nndmt

Joined: 20 Apr 2005
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Tue May 17, 2005 3:41 pm
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loki said:"anyways, ONWARD HOBBY PSYCHOACTIVE CHEMISTRY HEADS! i don't really care what happens, so long as something is happening. for me this is all about driving the whole thing forwards faster, the faster it gets, the sooner it ends (the WoD that is)"

The WAR IS OVER or don't you read? Total Synthesis II!

~nndmt
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biobrew

Joined: 16 Apr 2005
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Wed May 18, 2005 4:35 am
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I love my new home too. I feel like this is a great clean start, and i am also one of those people who are interested in 2C-* compunds. There are a chance for new groups to form here, and with all the forum varieties(fermentika...) i think this is a great breading ground for experimentors.

I do miss the hive though......all the funny mishaps and things not to do Laughing ...so there is PLENTY of room for both..

and loki....it seems to me that people that are into methedrine are not into 2-cb and mdma. Am i out of step....? Or is there some underlying mechanism?..

anyways.....let the good times roll
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sg43

Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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Wed May 18, 2005 9:32 am
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SWIM would have to agree that synthetikal beats just about every other drug forum out there, with ebooks,rhodium archive, and just about anything you could ever need, not trying to be a ass kisser but SWIM loves sythetikal! Embarassed
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hAzzBEEn

Joined: 09 May 2005
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Wed May 18, 2005 7:29 pm
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biobrew wrote:
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...it seems to me that people that are into methedrine are not into 2-cb and mdma. Am i out of step...

This is just a matter of personal opinion, but...
I think that some people ARE just interested in one compound. If those people do not spend time looking at a variety of synths, they are seriously limiting their ability to reach their goal. For example, someone interested in methedrine could benefit from studying MDMA and other chemistry, and viceversa.

Unfortunately, I do NOT think that you are "out of step", though.
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Aleister

Joined: 11 Apr 2005
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Thu May 19, 2005 6:41 pm
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swim too loves this place and personaly considers it to be just another step in the proliferation of information that was the end goal of the hive as swim understood it. swim feels a little guilty though as swim has little info to offer (still an ametuer bee) and plenty of questions(which may at times seem kinda stupid Embarassed ). swim's only gripe is that though this site has a pretty broad focus it is still kinda lite in some areas like hypnotics and dissociative anesthetics k etc. swim understands that these are a little difficult but has seen some candidates in the merk that might be possible otc whenever swim gets home he'll post some possibilities along with any pharmacological data he can find.
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