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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #200 on: April 08, 2011, 10:32:13 PM »
How does this work so? is this not on a secondary hailed?

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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #201 on: April 08, 2011, 11:28:12 PM »
yeah the stickig point is always making that solution it's not easy took me a good 6 months until i got it down to a science.
lots of trial and error.

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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #202 on: April 09, 2011, 12:39:50 AM »
« Last Edit: April 09, 2011, 12:45:03 AM by Wizard X »
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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #203 on: April 09, 2011, 12:53:09 AM »
it works but it takes a good month.
i was reading the only exception of it working on a secondary halide was isopropyl iodide and that very SLOWLY.
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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #204 on: April 09, 2011, 10:28:42 AM »
Would http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/dmmda-2.html not be the same type of reaction. It claims to transform iododillapiole to DMMDA-2 using the Delpine reaction.

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Extraction of iodosafrole left to your own imagination.  Our trade secret!!

Finally, amination is done at room temp with methylamine for MDMA or with
hexamine (via Delepine process) to get MDA or other analog.

Happy trails!      Pugsley and Wednesday.
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/halosafrole.txt

I don't see any references so is that just people talking shit?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2011, 11:06:32 AM by Palladium »

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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #205 on: April 09, 2011, 11:45:40 AM »
yeah that is (people talking shit)
i used to have the refernces to back up what i'm talking about, isopropyl iodide was an 'exception' it does react delepine style but it takes a month to do so.
proove it wrong.

i noticed the author has a tendancy to make outrageous claims if you read his writtings.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2011, 09:23:41 PM by jon »

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Delépine Reaction
« Reply #206 on: April 09, 2011, 11:55:43 PM »
Quote from: Palladium on April 09, 2011, 10:28:42 AM
Would http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/dmmda-2.html not be the same type of reaction. It claims to transform iododillapiole to DMMDA-2 using the Delpine reaction.

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Extraction of iodosafrole left to your own imagination.  Our trade secret!!

Finally, amination is done at room temp with methylamine for MDMA or with
hexamine (via Delepine process) to get MDA or other analog.

Happy trails!      Pugsley and Wednesday.
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/halosafrole.txt

I don't see any references so is that just people talking shit?




http://www.organic-chemistry.org/namedreactions/delepine-reaction.shtm

Mechanism of the Delépine Reaction: An SN2 reaction leads to the hexamethylentetramine salt. In chloroform, the starting materials are soluble whereas the products crystallize out.

Palladium: Dissolve your pure iodosafrole and hexamethylentetramine in chloroform and stopper well with a glass stopper. If a reaction occurs over time, the iodosafrole hexamethylentetramine salt product will crystallize out.

This is the simplest reaction test.
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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #207 on: April 10, 2011, 07:41:24 AM »
You could use cyanate anion as a nucleophile to attack the halosafrole forming safrole isocyanate which hydrolyses to MDA. Perhaps?

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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #208 on: April 10, 2011, 07:50:57 AM »
i don't think it is a strong enough nucleophile.

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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #209 on: April 10, 2011, 10:45:37 AM »
I'd be pretty surprised if a cyanate couldnt replace a halide (esp. iodine).  But that's all theoretical.  Exp. is king.

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Re: Yeee Haaah!! Jon's method DOES TOO work!! Bromosafrole...
« Reply #210 on: July 17, 2012, 06:41:22 AM »
Hi everyone, I'm bumping this post as, in a weeks time, I'll have the best part of a week of evenings plus a whole day to myself and I would like to have another good go at this.
Take a look at my newly started thread - Jon's route.

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