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Harm Reduction Resources / Re: To rid ourselves of the ghosts of the era bygone
« Last post by Trianion on January 05, 2020, 05:31:03 PM »
Wow, that came out longer than I thought it would. This is what i believe is necessary for ending the dark age of drugs.

I hope you agree with me and are a part of the movement to make these things a reality.

Also, that was my mandatory post to this category, pretty nice idea. Is this rule enforced somehow?
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Harm Reduction Resources / To rid ourselves of the ghosts of the era bygone
« Last post by Trianion on January 05, 2020, 05:20:49 PM »
I believe that the so-called drugs are by far the area of most misinformation, myths, urban legends, misconceptions and lies. This is amplified by the majority of users being unwilling (or unable) to listen to reason when being corrected about the true nature of these chemicals they happily consume, let alone educating themselves on these matters. The old "truths" are still being circulated, and the lack of criticism towards these tales is crippling.

This is part legacy of the 'war on drugs' misinformation released as the truth, and part information that (even if true originally) has been circulating among the users and dealers for ages, perhaps losing part of the information or maybe even changing it slightly when being passed on. This adds up over time, and corrupts even the most valid information out there.

This is frustrating, as it is hard to get people to abandon their deep-rooted beliefs and embrace the facts & science on these matters, even when presented in the most convincing way possible. It also doesn't help that virtually all research on outlawed psychoactive substances has ceased.

There is one answer to all this: Education. We must be persistent in our efforts cutting out the myths & lies and replacing those with true knowledge and solid research. We must be able to discuss the policies governing these issues publicly, without being immediately discredited, disregarded and labeled as a "goddamn druggie hippie".

I hope I will see things moving forward, the general public opening their eyes and seeing & hearing for themselves rather than sticking to the misinformation out there, seeing drug users down on their luck as people instead of just criminals, open discussion, rewriting the (obivously failed and ineffective) policies concerning these psychoactive substances and realizing the potential that is present in these substances.
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News / Re: South oz bust
« Last post by dedihetz on December 28, 2019, 10:05:01 PM »
Why these guys don't just get CAD drawings of their reactors made by their crack head mate who used to be a CAD draughtsman before the meth took over, then split the components up to be fabricated at various engineering outfits, not one outfit fabbing the whole thing, then get their mate Gonzo who works night shift fried out of his mind TIG welding and get that battler to weld it up. Untraceable.
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News / Re: South oz bust
« Last post by blade_runner on December 28, 2019, 02:55:25 PM »
Christ. How do you even get product out of a disgusting shitheap apparatus like that?
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News / Re: South oz bust
« Last post by eesakiwi on December 28, 2019, 10:35:33 AM »
Yep, i never knew anything about his earlier exploits, the Aussie crime kings programme focused only on that part of the story.
They did show how he was using a emptied out waterbed bladder & heat pads to dry the powders, i think thats how he got caught, it may have started a fire. Or it might have been that they knew something was going on and used that as a excuse.
Those stainless sep funnels, he got them made up for him. One of the engineers was going to testify so he tried to get a hitman & thats when it fell apart.
I cant wait to read the book, info straight from the source.

And the welding in the OP video... It looks like silvery bird shit, its been done with a rod, not TIG. Pretty scarey really if there's pressures involved. Most of it looks like its been bought from a scrapmetal yard ( which is a good idea for that scale of things ) & one wouldnt even need a excuse or reason to buy it.
Standard price seems to be "twice the scrap value".
Im setting up a homebrew 'still at the moment. Same setup really. ( Its legal to home brew here ).
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News / Re: South oz bust
« Last post by Hooloovoo on December 27, 2019, 04:00:48 PM »
Hooloovoo, i think that one was the Steven Spaliviero one. I saw that on telly in a episode of Aussie crime kings.
This article tells more about him & probably the pics of the huge sep funnels, used fir the glycidic reaction.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11958933
In this i find that he's written a book about it. Now that should be interesting.

Whoa - those pictures are even bigger than I remember - bigger than the rxn vessels I read about. They're fookin' massive!
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News / Re: South oz bust
« Last post by eesakiwi on December 27, 2019, 03:49:22 AM »
Hooloovoo, i think that one was the Steven Spaliviero one. I saw that on telly in a episode of Aussie crime kings.
This article tells more about him & probably the pics of the huge sep funnels, used fir the glycidic reaction.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11958933
In this i find that he's written a book about it. Now that should be interesting.
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News / Re: South oz bust
« Last post by Hooloovoo on December 26, 2019, 11:36:51 PM »
I remember reading about an Australian lab bust a few years back and it was notable for its capacity (huge, multi-multi kilo) and that some photos from the bust appeared to show large stainless steel pressurised reaction vessels. Seemed like they'd probably optimised the hell out of the one route and just cranked product out.
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News / Re: South oz bust
« Last post by CathCath on December 26, 2019, 10:58:25 PM »
i didnt use voice just was intrested whats theyr equipment and was quite disapointeed and now when i know they were using pseudoephedrine, i woud say what a bastards :D I imagine how much pseudo they have buyed/imported and at what prices where the bmk glycedate price is droping and droping(including the readily avaiable otc ways of producing p2p), i woud bet 50grams of theyr ephedrine had cost them more than for a kilo of the glycedate and the leuckard i think is much more easy than that presuirized reaction that they are using  :-X
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