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« Reply #760 on: February 28, 2011, 07:35:57 PM »
What do you use to remove silicone grease scum cheaply & effectively !?
You know,nasty soap-scum like thing that appears in your out of the reach of brush in glassware after you
use silicone grease often and/or at high temperatures.

I know that stuff is mostly inert but it tends to pick up dust and other crap and just looks ugly.

Hot ethyl acetate proved to be helpful. Combine it with a paper towel, if you can reach the spots, because even ethyl acetate is only a mediocre solvent for this purpose (nonetheless the best I've seen so far!).
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« Reply #761 on: March 02, 2011, 05:59:25 AM »
Anyone got any info on halogenated oxy amphetamines? I guess it would be -ite molecules so the names sound weird. An example would be 3-hypobromite methamphetamine. The picture should help.

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« Reply #762 on: March 02, 2011, 06:58:05 AM »
Looks highly unstable, I would not expect to find much literature on this to be honest because from the looks of it I would expect decomposition just attempting to isolate the substance.

Hypohalites as far as I know rarely exist outside of solution. Keep in mind that odds are this will disproportionate simular to NaOCl when attempts to isolate it are made.
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« Reply #763 on: March 02, 2011, 07:17:08 PM »
I sure as hell wouldn't want to put that in my body, if it was isolated somehow.
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« Reply #764 on: March 02, 2011, 09:56:50 PM »
Who said he wanted to isolate it or eat it? Perhaps this is a step in an organic synthesis to produce some other substituted amphetamine.


Not sure if the phenyl would act the same when it comes to rearangment, but Electrophilic halogenation: reaction pathways involving attack by ...
 By Peter Bernard David De la Mare (page 152)


The ph-O-Br turns into o-bromophenol... might be useful if another reagent were had, possibly methoxy or even methylenedioxy? No idea...
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« Reply #765 on: March 03, 2011, 06:05:34 AM »
I was staring at lysergol.  if only it could be oxidized without damaging everyones favorite yet fragile molecule.
I was curious if a Sarett oxidation could be a viable means to get the aldehyde, and through titration with tollens reagent get the carboxylic acid.  My largest concern would be the high alkalinity of the tollens reagent, but I'm not sure if that would really come into play.
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« Reply #766 on: March 03, 2011, 09:07:22 PM »
Potassium ferrate is known for oxidising alcohols without affecting alkenes and amines. It's also rather easy to prepare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_ferrate

The problem is actually getting any significant quantity of lysergol. It's uncontrolled, sure, but if you order a kilo from Sigma I'm sure that the feds will come a-knockin'.

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« Reply #767 on: March 04, 2011, 12:19:46 AM »
it's a nootropic.  30 mg pills are cheap, and not suspect to order... and if your thinking chem supplier... think China ;)

and I like the suggestion.  Although pyridine is semi available to me, I would prefer not to waste it.
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« Reply #768 on: March 04, 2011, 12:21:32 AM »
What do you use to remove silicone grease scum cheaply & effectively !?
You know,nasty soap-scum like thing that appears in your out of the reach of brush in glassware after you
use silicone grease often and/or at high temperatures.

I know that stuff is mostly inert but it tends to pick up dust and other crap and just looks ugly.

Hot ethyl acetate proved to be helpful. Combine it with a paper towel, if you can reach the spots, because even ethyl acetate is only a mediocre solvent for this purpose (nonetheless the best I've seen so far!).

Thanks!
I found out that DCM works silicone great for fresh grease but not for dried up scum.
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« Reply #769 on: March 24, 2011, 10:43:02 PM »
Does anyone know a synthesis of fenethylline?


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Fenethylline is metabolized by the body to form two drugs amphetamine (24.5% of oral dose) and theophylline (13.7% of oral dose), both of which are active stimulants themselves.

If this works and it it's a good stimulant, than it would be a great starting point for a class of new stimulants.

Theophylline is a relative cheap chemical, P2P is not a deal, maxbe it would be worth it.

The only thing that fenethylline is illegal at us, so an isomer should be prepared.. Maxbe fenpropylline... Or something like that.

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« Reply #770 on: March 29, 2011, 01:00:35 AM »
I had a lovely little run away nitro Al/Hg.  The addition funnel opened up some how and I almost shit a brick when I saw the vaporized MeNH2/MeOH puffing out of my column (fract column stacked on top of the condenser).  Put it in an icebath to calm things down.  The rxn was out of control for no more than 60 seconds.

Gassed and only got back 20% product.  Filtered, removed the solvent, and now I have a light yellow free flowing liquid.  TLC'd on 4:1 hexane/etoac and the major spot is very polar (Rf ~0.7-0.9).
I'm thinking its just MDP2P-ol, but I don't think it would be that polar.  I'll stain it next time I get a chance, but I'd like to hear any ideas on what this substance could be in the mean time.

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« Reply #771 on: March 29, 2011, 02:27:34 AM »
Possibly some product of nitromethane addition to the ketone? Seems kind of unlikely, though.

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« Reply #772 on: March 29, 2011, 04:21:51 AM »
nitro mannich reactions really aren't energetically favorable without some sort of catalyst, especially with methyl ketones.

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« Reply #773 on: March 29, 2011, 12:40:32 PM »
akcom the substance is likely a pinacol dimer formed when al/hg systems go above 80 C
it's like the mdp2pol dimer joined at the beta carbon.
also methylamine does'nt stay in solution very well at those temperatures this would explain the 20% yeild.
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« Reply #774 on: March 29, 2011, 02:53:51 PM »
damn, so basically the liquid I recovered is useless?

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« Reply #775 on: April 03, 2011, 12:19:08 PM »
Hi,

I have a short question : Could it be dangerous to buy 100ml Diethylamine 99,+ pure in europe ?

What do you think ? Is it a controlled substance ?

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edit : oh so sorry for the source  :-\
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« Reply #776 on: April 03, 2011, 03:56:50 PM »
Hello guys,

Decided to prepare some MDP-2-P Oxime this morning since I'm out of MDA  ;D ;) To my great surprise, The Hydroxylamine Hcl I had in stock wasn't snow white anymore, but more of a greyish-purple tint  ??? ??? I have no recollection of how it smelled (or any other properties beside color for that matters), but it sure wasn't that color :

What happened here ?? My MERCK states it slowly decomposes when moist (I didn't bother storing it correctly...Simply used 3 differents layers of plastics bags + some dessicant...Been lying around for 4-5 months ), I suppose that's the culprit and that the product is completely loss ??(If so, that's what I deserve for being negligent I suppose  :-\ ). I've searched a bit but found nothing really relevant....

If what I'm saying makes sense, I suppose recrystallization (or just about purification technique  ::)) is useless since the product is now mostly another compound, right? If so, looks like I'm going to synth. it myself instead of buying it  ;D

As always, thanks a lot in advance...Your help is ALWAYS greatly appreciated! :D

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« Reply #777 on: April 04, 2011, 12:22:53 AM »
Hi,

I have a short question : Could it be dangerous to buy 100ml Diethylamine 99,+ pure in europe ?

What do you think ? Is it a controlled substance ?

NO SOURCES !!!

edit : oh so sorry for the source  :-\

I've just bought 250ml in last month and I had no problem.

I used it for lidocaine and not for acid. And there is a LOT other ways how it can be used.

And of course, if someone is making acid, than his smallest problem will be the diethylamine.
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« Reply #778 on: April 04, 2011, 07:30:25 AM »

If you want to fuck around with acid, why don't you try to make your own DET, there is no need to start from scratch, you can extract it from the degradation of OTC products.

That require an High pressure bottle wich can handle the hydrolysis of DEET. If buying Diethylamine is allowed, i prefer using it ;)

and that's not for acid so i won't ask if buying POCL3 will be dangerous  :D
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« Reply #779 on: April 04, 2011, 09:12:07 PM »
Anybody know the solubility of lysergic acid in ethanol?
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